@hollywoodmogul21 my previous comment was meant as a test ,to find out if members of RLC really have a clue of what life is ,after spending the last 6 weeks of listing to so much garbage on the chat section , i was getting to the stage in thinking that only morons use the chat option , nice to know there are members that are sensible and knowledgeable ,that they can comment on something and have the apptitude to give a explanation to there comments ,yes im a member of camcaps to and it seems like this site needs to be moderated more than it is , maybe this site could be better ,just look at the forum post replies ,ussually the same select few members taking the time to comment on any given subject, is that because they like to be heard or as i hope its because they believe in this site and dont use the chat as its full of hitlers , and they find it more stimulating to have a decent discussion using the forum where we are not interupted by the cyber bullies and idiots that the chat section attracts, as for starting a poll on who is the sluttish ,i think that would open a can of worms and bring out the idiots of chat onto the forum threads , like i said my previous comment was just a feeler ,to see if there are any members with some common sense , so i take my hat off to you for your detailed reply to my comment ,BRAVO