What's the deal with Russian men?

[scbillsb]

scblllsb, I have to ask is it the bath tubs that make's you feel ill, or the lazy good for nothing tubs of lard with a testosterone deficiency that goes in them?

I suspect you are on to something Piemen.  I've also seen a distinctive lack of foreplay from the boys.  If that is what you can get out there (If you're female) then I'd become a lesbian as well.  At least with the girl on girl there is an investment in making their partner climax.

[Piemen]

We can think what we like. Point is that they themselves are convinced to be Alpha Males.

If they notice any doubt in another person they use physical power to convince the other of their superiority.

In J.R.R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings there are several recoqnizable cultures, I've always thought that Orks were based on

Russian men. 

Dundas, as usual you're not wrong, there is no other way of life for them, it's all they know, and it's never going to change 

[Piemen]

I suspect you are on to something Piemen.  I've also seen a distinctive lack of foreplay from the boys.  If that is what you can get out there (If you're female) then I'd become a lesbian as well.  At least with the girl on girl there is an investment in making their partner climax.

I did find out there as an English speaking western male, it's quite easy to pull a Russian girl (most modern Russian girls speak English) as long has she's not attached to something that resembles a Neanderthal, starting with doing something as simple as showing her respect, the problem with that though, it can take a bit of time for them to recognise it. 

[Dundas]

But beware ! Russian women are used to the Neanderthal culture. Showing respect could confuse them. I think, Piemen, this is what you mean with "recognise it".

There is a great risk for them thinking to have reached a godess-status and become Alpha Females or they think there is financial profit to be made.

The art is to push the in-between button....  

[Piemen]

But beware ! Russian women are used to the Neanderthal culture. Showing respect could confuse them. I think, Piemen, this is what you mean with "recognise it".

There is a great risk for them thinking to have reached a godess-status and become Alpha Females or they think there is financial profit to be made.

The art is to push the in-between button....  

Dundas, I've been told I have to go to Moscow tomorrow to attend site meetings. So to prove or disprove your theory, in my spare time, and at great risk to myself, I will carry out research study into this phenomena.  

[Dundas]

A pleasant journey, Piemen, and good luck !

[vampire]

This is my theory on the state of the Russian male today. (HISTORY)--WW2, Was devistating on Russian males. A large percentage of them were killed. Thus the women started taking over the previous male dominated jobs. Doctors, Teachers and all other areas. Through the years there has been 2 different reactions. One is OK--Let the women support me, The other resentment by the male. So we see these 2 dynamics working out in their culture--Just a thought -lol..

[Dundas]

Just for the information, there were 800.000 woman in the Russian army during WW2 (= 33 % of the whole army).

They were not nurses but fighting soldiers. Many were decorated and some became hero of the state.

In my opinion the old traditional role-models of women and men were dictated by communism or kept at least unchanged till the

fall of communism (1989). Now emancipatian of women develops against the domination of men. That's only 25 years ago, so

many old role-models are still to be seen. It's hard to change a culture in a short time, it often degenerates into a period of chaos.

And now president Putin is trying to restore the traditions (as they were during communism) and he doesn't except critical, emancipated

women (and a lot of others !!): 3 of them sang a song he didn't like and he send them to jail for 2 years. That's almost back to the

Middle Ages. Human rights are pulled back into the underground or else they will be crusched. The hope Gorbatsjov and after him Jeltsin have given the world is now gone and we enter a second cold war. Old traditions are confirmed and liberty is far and farter away.

[Scotsman84]

Just north of where I live is the town of Woodbridge, adjacent to Toronto.where there is a large Russian expat community. These guys are mainly into heavy drinking,illegal shit, guns and quicky sex.  They don't have too much respect for females but you don't touch their women without permission.

I've run into them in Cuba, as well, and they definitely don't have too many social skills. The women are better at that.

From what i have seen from  them over 3 years heavy drinking lol don't know the meaning #visitscotland lol

[Piemen]

Just for the information, there were 800.000 woman in the Russian army during WW2 (= 33 % of the whole army).

They were not nurses but fighting soldiers. Many were decorated and some became hero of the state.

In my opinion the old traditional role-models of women and men were dictated by communism or kept at least unchanged till the

fall of communism (1989). Now emancipatian of women develops against the domination of men. That's only 25 years ago, so

many old role-models are still to be seen. It's hard to change a culture in a short time, it often degenerates into a period of chaos.

And now president Putin is trying to restore the traditions (as they were during communism) and he doesn't except critical, emancipated

women (and a lot of others !!): 3 of them sang a song he didn't like and he send them to jail for 2 years. That's almost back to the

Middle Ages. Human rights are pulled back into the underground or else they will be crusched. The hope Gorbatsjov and after him Jeltsin have given the world is now gone and we enter a second cold war. Old traditions are confirmed and liberty is far and farter away.

Dundas, I returned from Moscow last night, and compared to my trip to Omsk it was a totally different experience, subtle and not so subtle changes are taking place in the country, firstly on arrival at Moscow airport my visa was checked by 9 different immigration officials before I was allowed into the country compared to 1 in Omsk 6 months ago.

In the City the atmosphere is one of big brothers watching your every movement, in my case they probable were English man working for an American company on a Russian Government Project, (which is related to my time in Omsk) if they were, they must have really enjoyed themselves, to catalogue my movements Hotel, Office, Hotel, Office and so on.

In my opinion and from what I've noticed the country is going back wards some changes can be seen on the surface, but you get the impression, a lot more is going on in the country that's being kept away from out side world and especially western eyes.

[Piemen]

But beware ! Russian women are used to the Neanderthal culture. Showing respect could confuse them. I think, Piemen, this is what you mean with "recognise it".

There is a great risk for them thinking to have reached a godess-status and become Alpha Females or they think there is financial profit to be made.

The art is to push the in-between button....  

Dundas, as promised I did carry out some although limited research in to the Alpha female, and I can confirm she does exist.

The first night in the Hotel while having a drink in the bar, there was a small group of women enjoying themselves until another woman joined them this toned down their enjoyment it was further toned down when another one joined them, and by the time what can only be described as the Alpha female joined the part  they may as well been at a funeral.

So for my last night my wife (she works for the same company had flown in from Kiev) so I had the 15 members of staff (8 women and 7 men) from the office over to the hotel for diner to thank them for all their hard work, so as to keep it short the Project Manager's secretary who's the Alpha female in the office, (strange no apparent alpha male) and I think he's having an affair with tried it on at the party until, she found out the person sat next to me was the Oracle whom she'd never met, and with realising she was no longer Alpha she started to go down hill rapidly and set about putting the drinks bill up.

As it's an American company and we all sign contracts acknowledging there is zero tolerance towards substance abuse, yesterday morning the office Alpha female was greeted by the company nurse and my wife, breathalysed blew 61 and duly sacked, the company will tolerate up to 7, so best appointed for the job my wife is staying on to put a lid on the Alpha female syndrome in the office once and for all.

At the airport yesterday the Alpha female was clearly seen strutting her strutting her stuff, and give one of these official government power, such as Customs, Immigration, or airport Police even the Alpha male doesn't stand a chance 

[Dundas]

Thank you, Piemen, for the highly interesting reports !

My only experiences were with the Iron Curtain in 1984: educational excursion to Berlin with a Museum Academy.

At the West-East German border pasports were checked with a very profound observation whether the person matches the photo.

And crossing Checkpoint Charly everybody carried so called "western" propaganda in plastic bags which was confiscated.

Only I was carrying nothing in order not to provoke them and by doing so was taken to a side-room to empty my pockets.

This communistic fear and paranoia were a great eye-opener for me and this fear seems to have a revival nowadays.

I hope that the Russian people will eventually stop it, but the democratic movements are highly dominated by the

Alpha males- and females of Russia and have to pull back underground to prevent "execution".

Wonder (with fear) what will happen if Sweden decides to join Nato.... 

[Piemen]

Thank you, Piemen, for the highly interesting reports !

My only experiences were with the Iron Curtain in 1984: educational excursion to Berlin with a Museum Academy.

At the West-East German border pasports were checked with a very profound observation whether the person matches the photo.

And crossing Checkpoint Charly everybody carried so called "western" propaganda in plastic bags which was confiscated.

Only I was carrying nothing in order not to provoke them and by doing so was taken to a side-room to empty my pockets.

This communistic fear and paranoia were a great eye-opener for me and this fear seems to have a revival nowadays.

I hope that the Russian people will eventually stop it, but the democratic movements are highly dominated by the

Alpha males- and females of Russia and have to pull back underground to prevent "execution".

Wonder (with fear) what will happen if Sweden decides to join Nato.... 

Dundas, I remember those day's the communists one side of the fence, Allies the other, there's one slightly amusing fact that very few people know when either side was patrolling the fence there were gaps in it because it didn't exactly follow the boarder so you would find from time to time Russians technically in the West and the Allies in the East they were only allowed to travel in motor vehicles then only if the other side were available to escort, this didn't stop the Russian troops from exchanging Vodka for cigarettes, and other Western luxuries.

Some years ago Russia made tentative enquiries into joining NATO, thankfully most of the Alliance vetoed the idea, just think what problems this would have caused, examples recently being their intervention in the Ukraine and their reclamation of the Crimea.         

[Dundas]

Russia would have used most certainly to spread its influence over the whole of  Europe by joining Nato.

And in case of Russia versus Ukraïne it ought to be the other way round: the first Capital of the Russian Empire was Kiev !( AD 800).

In a lot of conflict aeria and wars you see friendly interactions between enemies in the field, the hostility and agression start

in gouvernment-buildings an headquarters (where it is save).

We see where the fault of Russian men leads to, it almost asks for a political topic, as Cam Caps has.  

[suzy]

Was Gorbatchev a nose-picking master? Is that why he lost?