WHAT'S UP WITH RLC

[dougiestyle4u]

     Obviously RLC is condoning bad behavior or choices by tenants lately. Either RLC does not have standards for the tenants to abide by or they only care about the MONEY from paid subscribers or other bad streams of revenue. To me RLC has gotten downright pathetic and sickening to watch with only a few shining stars like Desiree. RLC might as well bring back wife abusers and include BDSM (bring back "fuckin' EFFIM"). RLC ownership and staff are allowing shit to happen without shutting the apartments down to straighten things out. I have absolutely no respect for RLC. Oh well, just ranting because i understand that a lot of current and soon to be new subscribers are liking the new and improved RLC. Oh well - it is always about MONEY $$$$$, isn't it?

[eyenthesky]

10 hours ago, dougiestyle4u said:

     Obviously RLC is condoning bad behavior or choices by tenants lately. Either RLC does not have standards for the tenants to abide by or they only care about the MONEY from paid subscribers or other bad streams of revenue. To me RLC has gotten downright pathetic and sickening to watch with only a few shining stars like Desiree. RLC might as well bring back wife abusers and include BDSM (bring back "fuckin' EFFIM"). RLC ownership and staff are allowing shit to happen without shutting the apartments down to straighten things out. I have absolutely no respect for RLC. Oh well, just ranting because i understand that a lot of current and soon to be new subscribers are liking the new and improved RLC. Oh well - it is always about MONEY $$$$$, isn't it?

Maybe not.  I sent an e-mai to them concerning the drug use, they replied back asking if I had any screen captures of the activity because they were investigating.  I replied that i did not, in keeping with their stated policy of no reproductions of the site content.  Perhaps they are listening.

[iloner]

Hi guys,

RLC are between a rock and a hard place.  

I believe they have to have a licence to broadcast which imposes responsibilities on them, in particular not to condone practices which are against the law of the country the licence is granted in.

Apart from their legal obligations, which I am certain they will carry out, should they police the moral and behavioural choices of the tenants?  

Can it be said that they have gone further than condoning harmful choices and actually encouraged them?

I guess there are many people (not watching) who think our behaviour in watching is a sin and should not be allowed.   They would censor things we want to watch.

Here's the trouble with censorship, or policing morals and behaviours.    There is no agreement.   Meat to me is poison to you.    Laws change with cultural fashions.

RLC has the responsibility, not us.    The law will hold them to account.    Our choice is to pay or not, and to watch or not.

If you believe there is harm, don't watch.

   

[eyenthesky]

Iloner, you bring up some good points.  I think they have a legal obligation to prohibit illegal practices, such as drug usage on their site.  That not only protects them, but also protects their members.  I would be afraid of being an accessory to a crime merely by the fact that I'm viewing it.  If legal action against RLC ever became necessary, who's to say thier membership list wouldn't see the light of day in a public forum?

I also believe they have a moral obligation to protect the health and well-being of the occupants of the apartments.  Alcohol may be a legal substance, but alcohol abuse (and in this case I'm thinking of Lima) needs to be monitored and steps taken to intervene if it becomes too excessive.  Who gets to make those judgements?  I think we as viewers can contribute our concerns, and if RLC cares to, they can follow up on them.  Ultimately, its their site, but we get to vote with our pocketbooks.

In a perfect world, they would treat their subscribers more like stockholders, and be more responsive to our concerns, not just about incidents like we've seen, but also about other issues, such as the lack of cameras on the balcony, guests who abuse the privilege and become semi-permanent residents, or residents that have extended absences (Kami, for example).  Their attention to our feedback would go a long way to cementing customer loyalty.

As viewers, I think we also have a responsibility to moderate our expectations.  We think every girl that comes onto this site must engage in a lesbian show the minute she unpacks.  We get upset if one of them doesn't masturbate at least once a day... folks, it's supposed to be Real Life, and I'd rather watch a semblance of that than a choreographed lesbian party any day!  

[iloner]

Look Iloner, I know that what you say above is not your whole view.    As ever you want to argue on both sides:

I think eyenthesky  is right.     It's all very well to  take a tough stance -  these girls are adults so what right have we to interfere in the choices.

But what happened in your own real-life? That man who got punched: you called the police. The cyclist who was treated unfairly: you made a statement that stymied the bully. The pretty girl who was self harming: you got her help  (I'm not certain about your motives on that one).

 Recent legislation chases the people who pay as a cause of crime. Child porn, people trafficking for sex work: the argument is that without the money there'd be no crime and no harm.

Drinking, drugs, smoking are social problems. However well-intentioned, if you took a  ciggy out of the mouth of a teenager on the street, or a can of alcohol from a homeless man, you would be the one charged with assault.

In the UK there is a law of joint responsibility for serious crime. If you stand idly by and do nothing to stop it you can be convicted of having taken part.   Sometimes the law is a blunt instrument; unfairness can result, harm worse than what was sought to be prevented.    The law does not oblige us to interfere, and would probably not support us if we did.

But we do have  a third choice I didn't mention above.    As eyenthesky says  we can make our views known.

I started to topic in general discussion The Barcas -  what sex do we want?

Let's tell RLC  what we do want. I think they are listening.

[CowArt]

1 hour ago, iloner said:

RLC has the responsibility, not us.    The law will hold them to account.    Our choice is to pay or not, and to watch or not.

If you believe there is harm, don't watch.

   

You are right, if this is the service they choose to provide, we either take it or leave it.

For now I'm waiting to see how RLC will respond to the numerous reports they received over the weekend. We now had three occasions at B1/B2 which were "questionable". I'm counting the whole Beardo-week as one occasion here. I'm sure RLC received enough reports on the first event, but all evidence on that was circumstantial, nothing actually on camera. This weekend there wasn't much effort in hiding what was going on, so if RLC lets this one slide, I know enough, that means they are aware of the situation, and either approve of it, or choose to ignore it.

I see sums of cash money getting exchanged in the apts which makes me believe these girls have more money to spend than me. I'm not saying I'm rich, but I'm doing okay, and I think the current tenants of both Barca-apts are very much capable of renting their own place. If this is the lifestyle these girls decide is right for them at this point in their lives, I wish them the very best with that, but they are NOT gonna do that on my paycheck.

[Sir_Lurxalot]

Right you are CowArt! I know that unless and until RLC makes it clear to the performers where the lines are drawn, they won't see nickel one from me.

[dougiestyle4u]

Truth be told - RLC IS more than just a Porn Site - it is so obvious now!!!

[Rob1]

Yeah rlc has turned into a porn site like i said before my worst fears is rlc turning into VV and that's exactly what has happened a shame really because i liked the site. It is a voyeur site so it should remain a voyeur site.

 

By the way as much as you guys like the girls apartment , the girls apartment is the main reason it has turned into a porn site because of that fake lesbian stuff which eventually turned into lesbo sex i didn't mind the lesbo sex but the way they went about it doing the fake lesbian teasing then eventfully having lesbian sex after about 2 years was totally stupid if they are truly lesbians they should turn straight away it doesn't take 2 years to lick a pussy.

 

(I always thought the fake lesbian stuff was stupid and silly)

[dougiestyle4u]

 I will take real natural lesbian sex over fake scripted lesbian sex any day. The lesbo sex presented now appears to be more forced or setup than in a natural loving way (this is more in the way of porn style to me). Whatever happened to the straight lesbian sex that some commented on??? - LMFAO.

[iloner]

Truth to tell here has been disappointingly little girl on girl in the Barca aptmts, of any kind.    Fact is  we are nowhere near being in danger of turning into V-V (though today's bloke's visit to Lima is that type of unemotional thing).  

In reality there has been hardly any lesbian action, fake or not.   RLC has pretty much always been a tease.   Here's what I remember over about 2 years.

Real natural lesbian sex -

type 1: Nina and Kira, energetic fingering usually in the dark, but we know what's going to happen - so I don't usually watch

type 2: Carina and Sabrina, rhinoceros abuses girl in maid's uniform using Pinnochio's nose as dildo - so I don't usually watch

type 3: in the Barca aptmts: real sexual feeling develops between tenants and is not usually expressed.   Example Danaya had the hots for Ilona but was denied - very affecting and erotic; Rebecca very affected by Megan (when not under influence ie when real) but again denied ; Kristy probably has real sexual longing for Kami, but she suppresses it and may even by now have matured out of that stage, so who knows really.     

Forced set-up lesbian sex -

type 1: Lola dildoing Polya in the bath with Stella standing by smiling - not erotic because featured leathery Lola, Polya looked vaguely embarrassed even drugged up and Stella wasn't joining in any actual sexiness.

type 2: set piece to give Carolina an orgasm - would have been erotic but descended into farce and ultimately annoyed almost everyone, except Lola who got licked out beautifully and Carolina who treated the neighbours from the balcony to a loud medley of erotic noises.

Fake scripted lesbian sex -

 K & K the French kiss; Irma and Ilona kiss (bugger it I missed that day), Kristy trying it on with the Angels, perhaps Milena making a pass at Belle .......... but none of this came to anything so it was a tease, but I certainly enjoyed whatever I got to see.

Which leads us to Real Actual Unexpected but probably Drug Induced Lesbian Sex  

Happened once only when Megan and Rebecca strayed from any script and obeyed their natural instincts while their inhibitions had been temporarily suppressed, with Belle also

Before this was interrupted by Lola and turned into Forced set-up lesbian sex type 2, the twenty minutes or so of the three girls in Megan's bedroom was the single most erotic thing I have ever seen because it was unexpected and it was real.

 What do I want?   

I would like sex-starved girls living with beautiful friends to feel able to slide into each others' beds and make love as a natural extension of their daily friendships.  

I believe in real life girls do this....... sometimes.    In my dreams it happens a lot.

 

[dougiestyle4u]

     Have any of you realized how much whispering  to each other is going on lately with the tenant girls or visitors in Barca1 (no free cams for Barca2 so i can't comment on them). More and more i see this happening especially right in front of the cams. Are the girls planning some unscrupulous behavior that they do not want RLC to know of OR are they relaying RLC's next "rules of engagement" to entice the viewers. To me, i find this rude, very suspicious, deceiving and NOT real life. Something secretive or illegal or some backstabbing is being said. RLC staff watchers have to be aware of this one way or another. The whispering is very intentional and serious in nature so it gives the appearance of something shady happening or being planned. This is definitely not girls just having fun - way more going on behind the scenes. Oh well. more to watch than just voyeur tease with nudity and sex - i guess?

[dougiestyle4u]

7 minutes ago, iloner said:

 

 

 What do I want?   

I would like sex-starved girls living with beautiful friends to feel able to slide into each others' beds and make love as a natural extension of their daily friendships.  

I believe in real life girls do this....... sometimes.    In my dreams it happens a lot.

 

     Yes, that is exactly what i am waiting for. No drugs but a glass or 2 of wine or beer is okay and then the desire to perhaps get cozy and romantic with loving kisses. Perhaps friends with benefits. Nothing forced, drugged or scripted - just the willingness of 2 beautiful girls wanting some love, tenderness and maybe sex with each other. This won't ever happen in front of REALLIFECAM because RLC is NOT real life.