Moose8973

Okay all. I posted 2 days ago on another forum that I was not happy for what we did when we all thought Wed. night was drug fueled, yet watched anyway. I agree with most of what was said. A little disappointed SZ felt the need to swear at us in all caps but that is not huge in the big scheme of things.
I am about to play Devil's Advocate here, sort of like in a debate where you MUST take the opposite position and try to make a compelling argument AGAINST the topic being discussed. I have been a member since Feb 2016 and I have tried to read a lot of the Forum posts over that time to get a feel for what has gone on before I joined and since. There is a lot out there so it is just about impossible to get to it all. I have also tried to be a chat participant and respect what others say (for the most part, some really piss me off) and I have probably ruffled a few feathers from time-to-time. I like to think I am reasonably level headed and consistent in my opinions. 
Here goes.
No one has ever objected to sex on RLC: not lesbian sex with Kira and Nina, possibly because they are married; not when they had a 3-some, which caused a lot of legal issues; not with Carina and Sabrina having sex with a strap-on and really rough sex; no one objected to SugarBonnie doing her sex shows, which were pretty explicit, from her tiny bedroom at C&S; Leora masturbating was fine and members could not get too much of that; we enjoy picking on Paul, even with his personal hygiene issues and really, really, really wanted him to be a real man and do Leora more often; Nelly and Bogdan could always make sure they were positioned properly to display there sexual activity, which they obviously planned carefully, and everyone said that was awesome; Nelly would masturbate while watching porn and with a good view and that was fabulous; Adriana could masturbate in her bed and we thought that was great because Daniel is just not man enough, yet he was the only one I know of who had anal sex with his partner and the write-ups on that were that is was just spectacular; it is fine when Stesha and Marco have sex, probably the most normal sex on the site, except for putting a condom on 3/4 of the way through, and we all love them; there was a lot of outrage at the way some of the Stesha and Marco guests treated their women and the parties but that was written off because after all, they are Russian men and that is just how they behave so the social outrage just falls by the road; Maya and Stepan are probably about as 'normal' as you get and probably mirror most of our lives, meaning they are boring and everyone mentions that but it is fine when they have their monthly sex, especially when Maya puts on her cat ears; we are all outraged that Lev has committed domestic abuse on Zoya several times and yet is still on the site, yet everyone comments on how awesome her masturbation scenes are even though she may be suffering from the pain of his abuse; Desiree and Raul appear to be pretty normal, it appears Raul actually works leaving Desiree alone during the day, and I have not seen anyone object to her masturbating using 3 dildos to keep her sex drive satisfied, and there have been lots of comments on her weight and a lot of those are, frankly, pretty offensive; no one seems to object to Masha and Sasha having sex at the turn of a hat, in point of fact if they go for a while without doing it we wonder where they are getting it outside of their place; speculation on Marsha and Sasha and the Italian have run rampant yet the one constant in chat is wanting to see Sasha do her when Masha is not there, not too kinky there folks; not a real fan of Vanessa and Thomas but when they would always cover up during sex everyone complains how dare they; when Vanessa (or  Thomas') parents were house sitting most were entertained by their sexual prowess for an old, fat couple but I have seen no complaints about that; even when Kamila's mother was in the apartment and masturbated in the tub, which I happened to catch for a minute and still cannot purge from memory, while Kami and Kristy were away was greeted with open enthusiasm that the old lady could still get it on; Suzan and Hector lead as boring a life as can be imagined and the biggest complaint is they do not have enough sex, and tongues were really flying when Suzan was doing it with one of the idiots who stayed with them for a while, but no real social indignation; the primary musings on Kami and Kristy was for them to give in to their sexual desires and do it with each other, when clearly they are not lesbians, even though Kami planted a big kiss on her once late one night, and Kami's new boyfriend has certainly proven she is heterosexual while Kristy is proving she is obviously heterosexual, although her choice in men leaves something to be desired; and finally there is the Dasha and Demid, the true soap opera apartment, which has fueled more speculation than the others combined and yet the primary complaint is Demid controlling Dasha too much and members want to old wilder Dasha back when she would masturbate more on camera with her PC; everyone bitches that Barcelona was too boring, just a bunch or women laying around in their lingerie and being on their phones all day, no girl-on-girl sex, and thank god that some of them would finally masturbate on cam; when Barca2 was put in place and we had 2 really young girls who looked fresh off the farm what did everyone want, for Megan and Amy to hook up and have lesbian sex!
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Also, I forgot the most important example: EFIM, who gets some of the best reviews for his sexual performances by newbies and old school members alike. He is reviled because of the way he has treated his women, whipping Diana and trying the same on his current girl. Yet when he shows up to visit Nelly and Bogdan the crowds go wild because they know he will fuck his girl regardless of whether it is 4 a.m. and he goes for a long time. Again, domestic violence does not count where performance matters.
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As for RLC: everyone complains they provide boring apartments with too little action; poor choices in tenants; not enough sex for the money they charge; not enough free cams so non-members cannot see all the action, how dare they restrict that free access or tighten it up; if they would not provide this then someone else should take over, which apparently was done in July and give us what we want and are paying all this money for. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID!
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If what happened had been introduced over the span of 1-2 months: Megan and Becca, Lola dildoing Polya in the tub; Belle having a romp with Anna or one of the other girls; no one would have been offended, there would have been an outpouring of applause for all the actions and RLC would have been praised for their choices. People would have been clamoring for videos of the action, just as they are for the party action.
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So what this says to me is we are all hypocrites of the worst kind who are willing to demand activities over and over and over; yet get all righteous when our demands are met. How did we justify what happened; it must have been drugs because otherwise we cannot accept that many watched what happened and liked it; until the next day when we felt bad because we need to soothe our souls and are not willing to admit that we liked it. And as I write this Lev is fucking Zoya on the couch, and you know what; I enjoyed watching the little I saw and I would bet so did a lot of others! And the chat pretty much suggests viewers who saw it think Lev should do her more often or this post ' Hi all. Perhaps the beginning for Z&L'. So much for domestic violence and other social concerns. I guess we need a bigger soap box on which to stand the next time we are feeling indignant with ourselves.
So there you go, the completely opposite point of view using nothing but facts. I used to enjoy doing this when dissecting project designs at work because it forces one to look at issues from multiple perspectives and make others reconsider if their initial analysis was correct or find points which were overlooked. 
So now everyone can go and attack what I said and I truly believe the outcry will be HUGE. 

Your right, to "me" it seems that Thomas still haven't gotten use to the cams, and if he and Vanessa are having sex he stops leaving her unsatisfied.  These two have been here for awhile now, "I believe for them its just free living" as long as they are getting away with it I think they well continue to keep doing what they do "NOTHING"

Why is it that their house guest have more sex than they do

Why is it that their house guest have more sex than they do

TYPICAL .. FREELOADERS MOANING! THERE IS A WAY AROUND EVERYTHING BUT IF YOUR TO DUMB TO FIND IT ,THEN STOP BITCHING AND LISTEN TO OUR WISER MEMBERS......SIMPLESSSSSSSSS

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Okay, I have been expressing my opinions on chat for some time on what I would change to make RLC top shelf. I have been catching crap for not putting it here, although I have added bits here and to other forums. Some suggested this is suicide, will get banned and so on. I am not sure if RLC ever hears a word of what is written hear but hopefully they do.
 
One more important item: RLC does not promise anyone will view sexual acts on their site. My discussion does not in any way make an assumption counter to this position. If tenants do then so much the better for subscribers; if not, we have not been promised such acts and have no reason to complain.
 
1. RLC needs a REAL news letter, not that crappy 3 liner the send out. They should be telling subscribers what is new, if they have a plan for the future of the site and they should have a suggestion drop down on the site, also referenced in the news letter, soliciting constructive feedback from subscribers. If RLC changed ownership I would expect to see a sort of 'We Are Here' announcement. I used to do customer support before I retired and wrote lots of missives for users. If had presented the RLC news letter to my bosses I would have been fired immediately.
 
2. Every apartment should have at least 1 free camera in a public space, no exceptions. You cannot entice new subscribers if they do not even have a clue who the tenants are in each apartment. Its like asking someone to pay for clothing online without having a picture of the item. However, the apartments do not need free cameras every where for non-subscribers to view; if you want to see it become a subscriber.
 
3. RLC should provide cameras on decks/patios in all apartments unless there is ABSOLUTELY no way to protect the privacy of neighbors. If that is an issue then an interior camera should have a reasonable view through a window to see the deck/patio area. There are too many times where tenants disappear to these areas for significant periods of time; which I would do also if the weather were nice. This is especially true when they are having parties. The whole event moves outside; you can hear it but never see it.   Two items in the RLC FAQ describe what they are offering:
 
What is RealLifeCam?   RealLifeCam is a unique website where you have the chance to observe the private life of other people in live round-the-clock.   Who are the people we see on the website and what is the scenario they are living?   People you see online are not actors, they are real people living their routine lives in apartments equipped with video cameras. There are no scenarios, no operators, video editing or censorship just life as it is 24/7.   If you restrict all access to these areas they you are greatly restricting access and are proclaiming a falsehood.    4. RLC needs to review tenants performance. To me, 'real life' is not some couple being supported by RLC to sit around on their phone and computer 24x7. Real people have jobs, hobbies, friends and so on. If the tenants are employed then we can expect them to be gone during the work day. I would accept that without question. Many current tenants appear to work; many do not. If you offer a way for subscriber feedback you will quickly find the deadwood and move on to more interesting tenants. Subscriber feedback would also allow feedback on existing camera locations; is too much of a room blocked, is the view from the camera too restricted so tenants heads and feet are constantly cut off.   
5. One of RLC's concerns I believe is the recording and distributing of their copyrighted materials. Recording and copying is CLEARLY prohibited in their documentation on the web site. Many do and RLC exercises their right to remove such materials where found and punish the offender. I have no problem with that. 
 
    What I would propose to RLC is they provide such a facility through their site. RLC would provide a licensed recording product on the site and the ability to use that product. Subscribers would be able to record what is happening on any camera. There would be limitations on the time length of any recording, you could not record one cam for hours on end; the amount of recording by each subscriber in a specified time period, 24 hours lets say from 00:00 to 24:00 is an example. The subscriber would get to name the recording and RLC would automatically put a date/time stamp on the file.   
 
   RLC would create and maintain on their servers a directory for each apartment. These directories would be the SOLE location to which subscribers could save a recording. 
 
   Recorded files would be retained for some pre-determined length of time on the servers. Once the retention period was exceeded the files would be removed. 
 
   These recordings would be available for viewing by subscribers via the apartment gallery. This would provide a huge benefit to subscribers because no one can be online 24x7. This would allow subscribers to 'catch up' on what has gone one during the day which others found of interest. This would be a great selling point for RLC. Access could be made available on a limited basis for those looking to join. Many websites allow potential subscribers to view 60-90 second segments of a recording as a preview of what they could receive by subscribing. Most of those sites also limit the number of recordings you can view before you get the subscription screen.
 
   RLC could also offer an option to retain for longer periods of time certain recordings, a history of the apartment if you will, by having users submit a request to retain specific files. These requests would be reviewed by some for of moderator who would make the final decision. The Gallery would then be an living entity, growing over time. This would also entice new subscribers because they could catch up on months of history. The only limitation on the gallery would be storage space and disk space is so inexpensive these days it should be a non-issue.
 
6. RLC should offer an online chat facility. It is my understanding, though this may be in error, the company which owns www.reallifecam.com (RLC) also owns www.reallifecamfan.com( RLCF). If this is true,  the RLCF chat room would be offered as a tab/menu from the RLC website. The chat would be open to subscribers and non-subscribers alike. For non-subscribers you would need to obtain an RLCF Chat Userid which you would use to logon. Use of this facility by all would foster a feeling of community and be a selling point for RLC. Many users consider RLCF to be as important a function as the RLC website itself; allowing members to chat on various topics, not just RLC.
 
7. Some have suggested it would be nice to have a mini-bio on the tenants so we can at least know who-is-who. I think a picture with the name might be sufficient if there are concerns for confidentiality of the tenants. Knowing where the apartments are located would be nice as speculation runs rampant; but again tenant security, contracts and local laws might prohibit the release of this information.
 
8. The possibility of spreading the apartment across more time zones. Currently all but 2 apartments are within 2 time zones, meaning activity can become an all or nothing affair; going from nothing to too much to follow at one time. A recording facility would alleviate some of these concerns but many of us would still like to see more of the activities on a live basis. This could also provide more cultural diversity which would potential and current subscribers would find attractive.
 
9. RLC should terminate ANY and ALL tenants who are physically abusive to their roommates or guests, with no exceptions. Subscribers are voyeurs and violence has no place on a website such as this.
 
10. RLC should work to provide a variety of tenant relationships whenever possible. Racial/ethnic/sexual  diversity would provide much more interest to a wider audience of subscribers.  If tenants are male, female, gay, bi-sexual, straight, white, Asian, African American should not matter.
 
I am sure I have forgotten something during this rant but thank heavens people can point out its shortcomings, and I am sure they will. 
 
Thanks for reading this.

I see yall talk about shoutbox. ..what is that ...please explain...thx

Okay, I will wade into this emotive topic .....
 
So lets say the new owners of RLC heed all the complaints and opens up a few free cams in every apartment.  The ONLY thing that will happen is the same people currently complaining about no free cams will now start complaining that no action happens in the free cam rooms, they now want free cams in bedrooms and bathrooms.  They basically want everything for nothing.
 
And before everyone jumps down my throat, ask yourself this:  if there were free cams in every apartment, would that encourage you to take out membership, as in actually paying and contributing to RLC?  I seriously doubt it.

Im tired of seeing people bitchin about there not being enough free rooms....if it weren't those of us that aren't cheap and dont mind paying for our perv habits you other cheap pervs wouldn't have the free cameras as you DO have...so stop bitchin and nut up the cash and enjoy all the cameras or stop bitchin..they have to pay for these Apts somehow...Im sure they want to make money at this...they didn't do this as a charity

Ok...fist im sorry for the derogatory term "cheap"..I wasn't trying to insult anyone..it just seems like everywhere on here there are people bitchin about t enough free cams...it irritating. .that's all....
And im all for the free cams I understand not all can afford the premium. ..and as some pointed out its good advertising also...I appreciate this site and enjoy learning more about what's going on since I don't speak russian or Spanish and can't understand what they are saying...I just get tired of every other feed someone complaining about not havin more free cams..
Sorry again if I insulted anyone....I was just ranting...

Oh come on moose, don't back down from your point of view so easily. There ARE a lot of people complaining about not enough free cams in the apts... I think they don't have a right to complain, about how much is given away free.... Also, if they gave away more free cams there would be less people paying for it and that might make the whole site crash... NO... everyone needs to realize they have a limited amount of free cams by design. They want you to wish you could see more, that makes you WANT to see more...Thus more people buying subscriptions...just like I did..
 
So Stop Bitching..
 
How was that moose?

Ok...fist im sorry for the derogatory term "cheap"..I wasn't trying to insult anyone..it just seems like everywhere on here there are people bitchin about t enough free cams...it irritating. .that's all....
And im all for the free cams I understand not all can afford the premium. ..and as some pointed out its good advertising also...I appreciate this site and enjoy learning more about what's going on since I don't speak russian or Spanish and can't understand what they are saying...I just get tired of every other feed someone complaining about not havin more free cams..
Sorry again if I insulted anyone....I was just ranting...

Im tired of seeing people bitchin about there not being enough free rooms....if it weren't those of us that aren't cheap and dont mind paying for our perv habits you other cheap pervs wouldn't have the free cameras as you DO have...so stop bitchin and nut up the cash and enjoy all the cameras or stop bitchin..they have to pay for these Apts somehow...Im sure they want to make money at this...they didn't do this as a charity