Capeguy

I will second what Donzi had to say. If you get over bearded guy and some really bad choices by RLC, I would totally enjoy seeing you back in an RLC apt at a later date. If your sexual preferences are as they appear, I think the right partner(s) and mentor heading an apt would allow you to express yourself.

I think Kami is averse to the oral part of things. It looks like he is slowly working her up with each session to where he can go in that direction. He has had the opportunity but it could be Kami has told him no and he has to convince her. Look at last night where he was working on the cute butt hole around 2:50 a.m. for many minutes. I think were he not so tired and it was so late he would have gotten a finger in there but just ran out of steam. Kami has come so far I expect him to keep working on her sexual awakening and take her many more places; and I truly believe she will enjoy the trip.

Becca you will be missed. You made quite an impression in your short time here and had a lot of fans. Good luck If Kitek's translation is correct then RLC made a serious lapse of judgement in having bearded buy there.

If this was a scripted party then bearded guy may have been partly responsible for keeping things going in the right direction. He could have met with each girl to keep them on plan. I do not have vid of that but I would be curious as to exactly how long each was in that room with him.

I disagree this was drug related. No one has shown one piece of real evidence that anyone took anything; that bearded guy put anything in their drinks, gave them pills or whatever. Maybe they got an offer they could not refuse to go overboard like this. As I said in my prior post, if this happened over 30-60 days NO ONE would have said a fucking thing nor would I have. I am ashamed because I continued to watch when everyone was saying they were drugged. Even though I do not believe that it still calls into question my moral fiber and I need to deal with that.

Okay all. I posted 2 days ago on another forum that I was not happy for what we did when we all thought Wed. night was drug fueled, yet watched anyway. I agree with most of what was said. A little disappointed SZ felt the need to swear at us in all caps but that is not huge in the big scheme of things. I am about to play Devil's Advocate here, sort of like in a debate where you MUST take the opposite position and try to make a compelling argument AGAINST the topic being discussed. I have been a member since Feb 2016 and I have tried to read a lot of the Forum posts over that time to get a feel for what has gone on before I joined and since. There is a lot out there so it is just about impossible to get to it all. I have also tried to be a chat participant and respect what others say (for the most part, some really piss me off) and I have probably ruffled a few feathers from time-to-time. I like to think I am reasonably level headed and consistent in my opinions. Here goes. No one has ever objected to sex on RLC: not lesbian sex with Kira and Nina, possibly because they are married; not when they had a 3-some, which caused a lot of legal issues; not with Carina and Sabrina having sex with a strap-on and really rough sex; no one objected to SugarBonnie doing her sex shows, which were pretty explicit, from her tiny bedroom at C&S; Leora masturbating was fine and members could not get too much of that; we enjoy picking on Paul, even with his personal hygiene issues and really, really, really wanted him to be a real man and do Leora more often; Nelly and Bogdan could always make sure they were positioned properly to display there sexual activity, which they obviously planned carefully, and everyone said that was awesome; Nelly would masturbate while watching porn and with a good view and that was fabulous; Adriana could masturbate in her bed and we thought that was great because Daniel is just not man enough, yet he was the only one I know of who had anal sex with his partner and the write-ups on that were that is was just spectacular; it is fine when Stesha and Marco have sex, probably the most normal sex on the site, except for putting a condom on 3/4 of the way through, and we all love them; there was a lot of outrage at the way some of the Stesha and Marco guests treated their women and the parties but that was written off because after all, they are Russian men and that is just how they behave so the social outrage just falls by the road; Maya and Stepan are probably about as 'normal' as you get and probably mirror most of our lives, meaning they are boring and everyone mentions that but it is fine when they have their monthly sex, especially when Maya puts on her cat ears; we are all outraged that Lev has committed domestic abuse on Zoya several times and yet is still on the site, yet everyone comments on how awesome her masturbation scenes are even though she may be suffering from the pain of his abuse; Desiree and Raul appear to be pretty normal, it appears Raul actually works leaving Desiree alone during the day, and I have not seen anyone object to her masturbating using 3 dildos to keep her sex drive satisfied, and there have been lots of comments on her weight and a lot of those are, frankly, pretty offensive; no one seems to object to Masha and Sasha having sex at the turn of a hat, in point of fact if they go for a while without doing it we wonder where they are getting it outside of their place; speculation on Marsha and Sasha and the Italian have run rampant yet the one constant in chat is wanting to see Sasha do her when Masha is not there, not too kinky there folks; not a real fan of Vanessa and Thomas but when they would always cover up during sex everyone complains how dare they; when Vanessa (or Thomas') parents were house sitting most were entertained by their sexual prowess for an old, fat couple but I have seen no complaints about that; even when Kamila's mother was in the apartment and masturbated in the tub, which I happened to catch for a minute and still cannot purge from memory, while Kami and Kristy were away was greeted with open enthusiasm that the old lady could still get it on; Suzan and Hector lead as boring a life as can be imagined and the biggest complaint is they do not have enough sex, and tongues were really flying when Suzan was doing it with one of the idiots who stayed with them for a while, but no real social indignation; the primary musings on Kami and Kristy was for them to give in to their sexual desires and do it with each other, when clearly they are not lesbians, even though Kami planted a big kiss on her once late one night, and Kami's new boyfriend has certainly proven she is heterosexual while Kristy is proving she is obviously heterosexual, although her choice in men leaves something to be desired; and finally there is the Dasha and Demid, the true soap opera apartment, which has fueled more speculation than the others combined and yet the primary complaint is Demid controlling Dasha too much and members want to old wilder Dasha back when she would masturbate more on camera with her PC; everyone bitches that Barcelona was too boring, just a bunch or women laying around in their lingerie and being on their phones all day, no girl-on-girl sex, and thank god that some of them would finally masturbate on cam; when Barca2 was put in place and we had 2 really young girls who looked fresh off the farm what did everyone want, for Megan and Amy to hook up and have lesbian sex! THIS WAS ADDED TO ORIGINAL: Also, I forgot the most important example: EFIM, who gets some of the best reviews for his sexual performances by newbies and old school members alike. He is reviled because of the way he has treated his women, whipping Diana and trying the same on his current girl. Yet when he shows up to visit Nelly and Bogdan the crowds go wild because they know he will fuck his girl regardless of whether it is 4 a.m. and he goes for a long time. Again, domestic violence does not count where performance matters. END OF EDIT As for RLC: everyone complains they provide boring apartments with too little action; poor choices in tenants; not enough sex for the money they charge; not enough free cams so non-members cannot see all the action, how dare they restrict that free access or tighten it up; if they would not provide this then someone else should take over, which apparently was done in July and give us what we want and are paying all this money for. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID! THIS WAS ADDED TO ORIGINAL: If what happened had been introduced over the span of 1-2 months: Megan and Becca, Lola dildoing Polya in the tub; Belle having a romp with Anna or one of the other girls; no one would have been offended, there would have been an outpouring of applause for all the actions and RLC would have been praised for their choices. People would have been clamoring for videos of the action, just as they are for the party action. END OF EDIT So what this says to me is we are all hypocrites of the worst kind who are willing to demand activities over and over and over; yet get all righteous when our demands are met. How did we justify what happened; it must have been drugs because otherwise we cannot accept that many watched what happened and liked it; until the next day when we felt bad because we need to soothe our souls and are not willing to admit that we liked it. And as I write this Lev is fucking Zoya on the couch, and you know what; I enjoyed watching the little I saw and I would bet so did a lot of others! And the chat pretty much suggests viewers who saw it think Lev should do her more often or this post ' Hi all. Perhaps the beginning for Z&L'. So much for domestic violence and other social concerns. I guess we need a bigger soap box on which to stand the next time we are feeling indignant with ourselves. So there you go, the completely opposite point of view using nothing but facts. I used to enjoy doing this when dissecting project designs at work because it forces one to look at issues from multiple perspectives and make others reconsider if their initial analysis was correct or find points which were overlooked. So now everyone can go and attack what I said and I truly believe the outcry will be HUGE.

Thanks for the feedback. I saw Lola, Becca and Megan early afternoon in Megan's room, possibly discussion on last night. Megan seemed a little upset/embarrassed so I am not sure she is happy with everything she did last night on a personal level. We will see. I think Lola becomes a different personality when she gets drunk; she wants to be a part of everything instead of just letting it flow around her. You could be right on RLC monitoring. I did not see the Lev incidents so I had forgotten when viewers said the police were there very quickly. I guess if there had been real danger last night they would have intervened. Wish they had intervened when I caught Kami's mom 'bating in the tub. Could have gone the rest of my life without that memory. Peace

I will agree with all that was said about the party, just about every fantasy most of us ever had probably came true. On the flip side there were some things that were not really good. * I think the overall chat from the beginning when everyone wanted to get rid of the guy, to the stage where he was drugging everyone, and then to the stage where everyone wanted to be sure it had all been recorded and was the best thing ever does not reflect well on us, myself included. If we really thought they were drugged the enthusiasm we showed is nothing of which we should be proud. I certainly enjoyed the action as did everyone else but I thought about before I went to bed around midnight and did not like myself for enjoying it, possibly at the expense of those women's feelings if they had indeed been drugged. Sort of like watching someone get sexually abused at a college party and everyone stands around and watches; although I have no idea what we could have done to stop the action regardless. * The fact they never went back to Barca1 on Wednesday to clean up after the party, which Polya did on Thursday by herself, does not reflect well on the Barca 2 women or Anna and Stella. It does not really matter if they were tired from being up so late; they were just as responsible to get it done. I thought when they all left Thursday afternoon that was where they were going but apparently not. * I was a real fan of Lola, even with looks that some describe in not too glowing terms. She really let me down last night. I will grant you she was pretty well toasted but she ended up sticking herself into a significant number of situations which disrupted what others were doing, apparently just to be part of everything; really poor form. And when things were winding down and lots of people ended up in Lola's tub, the one person who got left out was Rebecca, who created the situation in the first place expecting to be in there with Lola; who now only had eyes for Anna in Megan's room with the guy. Lots went in the tub after that and you could tell Rebecca was really disappointed and I think she really wanted to make something happen with Lola. * I am disappointed in RLC; not for what happened but for their shortsightedness in providing a way to contact them in an emergency, which this probably was not. If someone got hurt badly in an apartment, as when Lola fell getting out of the tub because she was drunk, and was alone there is no way for that person to get help. RLC needs to provide such a facility; it would be a real tragedy for someone to not get aid if many viewers see the situation and are helpless to get aid.

I will miss Bonnie. She was really cute but as said before her room looked like a bomb went off in there. Now that she is gone and her stuff removed we can see there is a window over the bed and real light actually comes into the room so it does not look like a cave all the time. She always had that covered and I never knew it was there.

Thanks for the credit. Just like with all things RLCF, it was merely an opinion because I did not think they were in there long enough for anything sexual, unless it was with a 66-year old guy like me in which case it was way too long. I considered a little pick me up but as CowArt said, their behavior did not really change a whole lot after that. The only one who looked funky on both nights was Anna; she got into the sort of dreamy ethereal state, which could because she has no tolerance for alcohol. Who knows.

You know watching last night was interesting. At first everyone wanted to cops to come arrest the guy because he obviously drugged the punch, regardless of whether there was any real proof; I mean we are watching something over the internet and you cannot believe everything you see. The outrage grew even more as some of the girls were doing things not in character to what we had seen in the last 5 weeks or less since Belle, Megan, Anna, Stella and Rebecca arrived; the 3 young ones had all been cutesy but coy seeming to lack any real experience. Then after there was sex happening everywhere the comments started becoming things like 'is anyone recording this'; this is the best thing ever on RLC', 'wow, Megan had a dildo under her bed, freaking awesome'. The concern for the girls safety suddenly became a second priority and our self-gratification became the primary issue; screw the fact that it MAY have been drug induced. Does not say a lot for us, myself included, does it? And I will go with the drug issue when someone can actually prove that point with real facts, not deductions from behavior we saw; or maybe they are all good actresses and RLC put on one of the best scripted performances of all time.

So Rubberman, you said she wasted a lot of your money thinking something was going to happen; what is it you were expecting? Lots and lots of sex; lesbo action with Kristy; wild masturbation every night? RLC never promised any of that so if you get sex at a site so much the better but there is no guarantee of that. Would you rather watch someone like Maya and Stepan and see if any grass grows in their place; Paul sitting at his computer all day; Daniel picking at his ingrown hairs; Zev playing vid games all day and night; some of the Barca girls who never did anything but lay around in the underwear and be on their phone?

What is this get her a girl thing. Kristy obviously likes dick so why do some insist on trying to get her into a lesbian thing. A load of crap.

Ok then, Kami is getting fucked pretty much every day on cam; 3 times the other day; what would it take for you to consider her 'not boring'? If she is boring which person on RLC do you consider 'not boring'? As far as a 'real' life goes pretty much all of them are boring; some appear to work but what do your standards require for them to be exciting? I am old and retired and with what little I do I still accomplish more in a day than any of them and I have a hobby or 2 which do NOT include watching my phone 5-6 hours a day.

Kristy has (?) a b/f and she has shown she enjoys sex. Nothing stopping her from having more, at least in the apt. I expect she is getting a lot of sex somewhere else.

I think Raul expects Desiree to respond to his needs but I think she is on her own to make sure her needs are taken care of; which is why she has 3 different size toys and know how to use them to satisfy herself.

I must say we are certainly seeing a different side of Kamila these days. Until recently she would hide under the covers to masturbate, hardly ever have her b/f over; although he was a total jerk so I can understand that, but even when there she was loathe to have sex with him in the apartment, always looked like she was mad at him until he finally wore her down. Now, I swear she must be getting herself wet with anticipation the second this new guy comes into the apartment. Her attitude has changed as well; she smiles all the time when they are together, she is all 'kissy face' when he is there because he actually treats her well; although he is one horny dude. And when he gets her going she is a very willing participant, driving her hips up into his hand when he fingering her, when he slows down to let her build up during sex she picks up and slams herself onto him without him having to do any of the work. It would appear she likes a little rough play with the spanking and tit slapping and fake strangulation play. He has definitely caused her sexual beast to be released; and bravo to them both for that.

I agree that Megan seems to like Lola, or she is making it appear that way. The spanking Megan gave Lola while Becca was massaging Megan was interesting. They were not just gentle love taps but some really good smacking. It appears Megan does enjoy doing breast massage and some beginning nipple play. It would be interesting of Megan and Lola were alone, so there was no time limit, on Lola's bed taking turns massaging each other with no restraints, just where it would lead. If Megan likes nipples then Lola would be a perfect place because we have seen just how her nipples rise when stimulated. Not sure who I would want to be the giver first; if Megan did Lola first it could set the stage for where Lola could go when doing Megan. If Lola did Megan first, how far might Megan go on Lola? It would be awesome to find out!

Kami and Kristy sat together yesterday in the kitchen eating, talking and laughing for over an hour then spent over 3 hours sitting on the couch watching something on the PC. They were laughing and joking as before and were laying all over each other just like they have done in the past. I will take this as a sign they are just fine with each other.

Hey Mooka, thanks for the comment. I agree that Kami appears to have changed. Perhaps all she needed was a guy who paid attention to her and treated her nicely instead of like the occasional piece of meat like the last b/f. This guy seems to really like her and it is great to see her smiling, because her smile is awesome and so is her laugh. This new guy is slowly turning Kami into a sexual dynamo and who know what else she will find out she likes. I think Kristy treats her guy as she does because most of the time when she wants some sex it takes him at least an hour to get of his f***ing phone. The last time I saw them she was the one doing the seducing and he still seemed unsure if he wanted to get laid. Daft idiot. I think he is very self-centered and he could treat Kristy a lot better.

The last week or so it appears Lola has been looking less 'happy' than she was previously. I wonder if she is having second thoughts about her 'assignment' in the Barca2 apartment? Perhaps this is not what she thought she had signed on for and is re-considering what she has gotten herself in to?

That is definitely the same Anna who was in Barca2! She was also in Barca1 last year. Get those glasses checked GunGun.

No they would be fine. I think most would prefer not to have a gay male couple but we would not have a choice now would we? I think a bi-sexual couple would prove very interesting or a couple who likes to 'swing' (if that is still the correct word in this day) would go over very well. Again, if they are interesting in what they do on a regular basis they would be well received. We have enough who just laze about with no interests in their lives.

Not. That is the last thing most members would want. How about 2 couples where the girls are bi-sexual and their men let them enjoy that; or just the 2 bi-sexual girls? They can have fun together and with male partners or other female partners.

Maybe because getting to see them well is for those who are paying members? If you give all of the 'good' stuff away for nothing then there is no incentive for anyone to join. It is, after all, a business.