Okay all. I posted 2 days ago on another forum that I was not happy for what we did when we all thought Wed. night was drug fueled, yet watched anyway. I agree with most of what was said. A little disappointed SZ felt the need to swear at us in all caps but that is not huge in the big scheme of things.
I am about to play Devil's Advocate here, sort of like in a debate where you MUST take the opposite position and try to make a compelling argument AGAINST the topic being discussed. I have been a member since Feb 2016 and I have tried to read a lot of the Forum posts over that time to get a feel for what has gone on before I joined and since. There is a lot out there so it is just about impossible to get to it all. I have also tried to be a chat participant and respect what others say (for the most part, some really piss me off) and I have probably ruffled a few feathers from time-to-time. I like to think I am reasonably level headed and consistent in my opinions.
Here goes.
No one has ever objected to sex on RLC: not lesbian sex with Kira and Nina, possibly because they are married; not when they had a 3-some, which caused a lot of legal issues; not with Carina and Sabrina having sex with a strap-on and really rough sex; no one objected to SugarBonnie doing her sex shows, which were pretty explicit, from her tiny bedroom at C&S; Leora masturbating was fine and members could not get too much of that; we enjoy picking on Paul, even with his personal hygiene issues and really, really, really wanted him to be a real man and do Leora more often; Nelly and Bogdan could always make sure they were positioned properly to display there sexual activity, which they obviously planned carefully, and everyone said that was awesome; Nelly would masturbate while watching porn and with a good view and that was fabulous; Adriana could masturbate in her bed and we thought that was great because Daniel is just not man enough, yet he was the only one I know of who had anal sex with his partner and the write-ups on that were that is was just spectacular; it is fine when Stesha and Marco have sex, probably the most normal sex on the site, except for putting a condom on 3/4 of the way through, and we all love them; there was a lot of outrage at the way some of the Stesha and Marco guests treated their women and the parties but that was written off because after all, they are Russian men and that is just how they behave so the social outrage just falls by the road; Maya and Stepan are probably about as 'normal' as you get and probably mirror most of our lives, meaning they are boring and everyone mentions that but it is fine when they have their monthly sex, especially when Maya puts on her cat ears; we are all outraged that Lev has committed domestic abuse on Zoya several times and yet is still on the site, yet everyone comments on how awesome her masturbation scenes are even though she may be suffering from the pain of his abuse; Desiree and Raul appear to be pretty normal, it appears Raul actually works leaving Desiree alone during the day, and I have not seen anyone object to her masturbating using 3 dildos to keep her sex drive satisfied, and there have been lots of comments on her weight and a lot of those are, frankly, pretty offensive; no one seems to object to Masha and Sasha having sex at the turn of a hat, in point of fact if they go for a while without doing it we wonder where they are getting it outside of their place; speculation on Marsha and Sasha and the Italian have run rampant yet the one constant in chat is wanting to see Sasha do her when Masha is not there, not too kinky there folks; not a real fan of Vanessa and Thomas but when they would always cover up during sex everyone complains how dare they; when Vanessa (or Thomas') parents were house sitting most were entertained by their sexual prowess for an old, fat couple but I have seen no complaints about that; even when Kamila's mother was in the apartment and masturbated in the tub, which I happened to catch for a minute and still cannot purge from memory, while Kami and Kristy were away was greeted with open enthusiasm that the old lady could still get it on; Suzan and Hector lead as boring a life as can be imagined and the biggest complaint is they do not have enough sex, and tongues were really flying when Suzan was doing it with one of the idiots who stayed with them for a while, but no real social indignation; the primary musings on Kami and Kristy was for them to give in to their sexual desires and do it with each other, when clearly they are not lesbians, even though Kami planted a big kiss on her once late one night, and Kami's new boyfriend has certainly proven she is heterosexual while Kristy is proving she is obviously heterosexual, although her choice in men leaves something to be desired; and finally there is the Dasha and Demid, the true soap opera apartment, which has fueled more speculation than the others combined and yet the primary complaint is Demid controlling Dasha too much and members want to old wilder Dasha back when she would masturbate more on camera with her PC; everyone bitches that Barcelona was too boring, just a bunch or women laying around in their lingerie and being on their phones all day, no girl-on-girl sex, and thank god that some of them would finally masturbate on cam; when Barca2 was put in place and we had 2 really young girls who looked fresh off the farm what did everyone want, for Megan and Amy to hook up and have lesbian sex!
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Also, I forgot the most important example: EFIM, who gets some of the best reviews for his sexual performances by newbies and old school members alike. He is reviled because of the way he has treated his women, whipping Diana and trying the same on his current girl. Yet when he shows up to visit Nelly and Bogdan the crowds go wild because they know he will fuck his girl regardless of whether it is 4 a.m. and he goes for a long time. Again, domestic violence does not count where performance matters.
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As for RLC: everyone complains they provide boring apartments with too little action; poor choices in tenants; not enough sex for the money they charge; not enough free cams so non-members cannot see all the action, how dare they restrict that free access or tighten it up; if they would not provide this then someone else should take over, which apparently was done in July and give us what we want and are paying all this money for. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID!
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If what happened had been introduced over the span of 1-2 months: Megan and Becca, Lola dildoing Polya in the tub; Belle having a romp with Anna or one of the other girls; no one would have been offended, there would have been an outpouring of applause for all the actions and RLC would have been praised for their choices. People would have been clamoring for videos of the action, just as they are for the party action.
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So what this says to me is we are all hypocrites of the worst kind who are willing to demand activities over and over and over; yet get all righteous when our demands are met. How did we justify what happened; it must have been drugs because otherwise we cannot accept that many watched what happened and liked it; until the next day when we felt bad because we need to soothe our souls and are not willing to admit that we liked it. And as I write this Lev is fucking Zoya on the couch, and you know what; I enjoyed watching the little I saw and I would bet so did a lot of others! And the chat pretty much suggests viewers who saw it think Lev should do her more often or this post ' Hi all. Perhaps the beginning for Z&L'. So much for domestic violence and other social concerns. I guess we need a bigger soap box on which to stand the next time we are feeling indignant with ourselves.
So there you go, the completely opposite point of view using nothing but facts. I used to enjoy doing this when dissecting project designs at work because it forces one to look at issues from multiple perspectives and make others reconsider if their initial analysis was correct or find points which were overlooked.
So now everyone can go and attack what I said and I truly believe the outcry will be HUGE.