Rhodie

2 hours ago, RUBBERMAN said:

I can deal with that!!!! LOL

Time will tell! LOL.

15 hours ago, RUBBERMAN said:

Rhondie, me and you have had our differences in the pass, and my have others in the future, but my question is "if you have cancelled you membership, why would you care whether or not who is bitching about the Chat Room or not....why would you really care?"  Its not like your there in the Chat nightly or daily...only once or twice a month in the forum bitching and calling the same way you are in the "forum about others."  I do think when others "DO" try and take part in the Chat Room, you yourself may not be signed on to observe some of the bull shit that they have to go threw!!  I know that I am not welcome there, and I could give a rats ass, but others members don't need to go threw some of the shit that some of the Chatters throw at them either, not all of them but a few.  And if you was around more, you would know that the only thing in the Chat Room being talked about are those Tricks in the GP, B1 and B2, other then that forget it.   The Chat is nothing but a "GOOD OLD BOYS CLUB" for some.   "I do hope my comment didn't turn us once again "in to disliking each other."

Not at all Rubberman.  "why would you care" is a fair comment. My whole point is, people keep complaining about chat but, nothing changes.  There is no point continually banging your head against the wall hoping that this time the outcome will be different. Save your yourself the torment and frustration. If people want to use chat, they can. If they don't, then they don't. Even though I have stopped subscribing, I do keep following chat and the forum in the hopes that RLC will improve. If it does, then maybe I will start subscribing again. I'm afraid you might have to put up with me for a bit longer?

On 8/4/2019 at 12:42 AM, dave0000 said:

I don't have a RLC account, so I have no idea what's going on there. I'm just throwing out ideas as possible solutions. Like I said I don't use chat of any kind accept to post in the forums. If I see something being talked about that I can make a contribution to I would/will do so. I hope I'm not coming off as bitching, that was not my intention at all. It's just that all I see are people saying what every movement the girls are making like: "so-so is now laying on the couch" or "so-so has just arrived home" I'm sorry that's not something I would chat about, but everyone has the right to talk about what they want to. I just wish it was a little less "stockerish". But yea I'm sure my comments are offensive to some as well, so yea to each his own.

Dave, I promise you, I took no offence. My comment about the chat room wasn't directed at anyone. It was just a general observation. My point being, this thread is the same people bitching about the same thing and yet, nothing changes.  Why keep beating a dead horse? There are so many who complain  about chat yet, don't take part. Yes, chat has become become a bit of an old boy's club. It's the same people who chose to participate. It's only natural that they would find common ground about what to chat about. As I have said before, they welcome others and, in my brief experience, they will chat about anything you like. Given the current state of RLC, there's not much to chat about. Like you, I am a non-subscriber. I quit 3 weeks ago. I can tell you, it was easier giving up smoking! As interest fades from RLC, so it will fade from RLCF. Please keep contributing and know, you are free to piss me off anytime. I will argue back, but that's part of the fun! 

On 8/5/2019 at 11:41 PM, Wizard said:

Would you not say that believing they are security cameras as not been gullible or that they were there when he moved in and they don't work. After nearly getting burned before you would think they would make sure everyone knows and understands before entering the apartment.

Anybody believing they are "security cameras" would be really stupid. Why would you need two security cameras in the bathroom, one focused on the bath?  From what I understand, everybody entering the apartments has to sign a consent form. This doesn't seem to be strictly implemented and laws vary from country to country. The participants may bullshit as much as they like but, ultimately, RLC is responsible for broadcasting everything so, they would take the blame/be responsible. Look at how quickly they took Angie's place offline when someone brought their kids in! 

On 8/2/2019 at 9:26 PM, dave0000 said:

If people other then the regulars, start chatting in there with topics other then the "barca girls", would someone kick you out? Or would it just turn into a huge argument? I mean why not just go in there and aggressively fight back for control. It's only words after all. It really isn't fair to monopolize the chat if it's public. Everyone should be able to use it. I've never really been a chat room user, but it would be nice to be able to ask a question or two (of stuff other then RLC, VHTV for instance) if need be, without fear of reprisal. 

The chat is only monopolised because it's only a few choose use it, most prefer to bitch about it. Look at past comments about those who have given it a try. They mostly say say positive things about their experience. As for it all being about the Barca apartments, quite honestly, since the purge, what the hell else is there to chat about? I'm surprised there is enough happening in the Barca places to warrant much discussion? B1 is dead, B2 is the same old staged shit, B3, I like Belle but there is a limit. GP is the only interesting bit? Most are boring but can Dami  win over Fiby? The conquest is more interesting than the deed!

3 hours ago, iloner said:

Hi dougiestyle,   

RLCF is a place where like-minded people interested in RLC (primarily) can share insights in a fun way to share and promote enjoyment.   When the predominant tone is negative, tenants and posters alike are trashed,  no wonder posters who like RLC's product stay away.

 

 

I agree about the negativity. Like it or not, RLC is what it is. If you don't like it, stop watching it. While criticism is completely valid, sometimes this topic is like beating a dead horse. Go back over the posts and it's the same shit time and time again. Nothing changes? It's not going to change by coming onto the forum and having a go at those who choose to participate in chat! Chat has become a bit of a club but, that's not their fault! It's the fault of those who would rather go onto the forum and bitch about it than join in. Scorpio, you complain that us newer members don't show you older members enough respect? Respect is earned, it's not based on which of us pervs found the site first!

 

The criticism of chat has become a complete bore. Same shit recycled again and again. I'm not the chatty type but, while some on chat are complete fantasists, most are  there to just have a good time and chat with others about RLC.  Don't blame everyone for the actions of a few! In my limited experience of partaking in chat, I have always been welcomed and, although I disagree's with some, my views were accepted, with grace.  I know there is a lot of criticism that chat focuses too much on the Barca apartments but, that is clearly where the attention lies. Look at the thumbs! Having been ripped off by RLC, I have stopped subscribing. I wish you all well and hope you can find a happy medium between chat and the forum. I have more chance of winning the Euro Lotto but, I wish you the best.

I doubt there are any gullible women involved? He's a cock for rent. Anyone suggesting Asia doesn't know it should, check their meds and/ or stop taking cheap drugs! As for the women he services, I doubt they aren't aware of the cameras? I don't know how RLC works but, I'm guessing they must have signed some sort of agreement before going inside. Laws differ between countries but, I'm sure getting someone to have sex , live on the internet,  without their knowledge, would be a bit of a crime? 

5 hours ago, Johnny said:

Calling them shows seems to be some people's way of showing that they know it's put on and pure money making. We all know if money wasn't involved most things would never happen, not forgetting alcohol. 

Isn't it? I doubt the Barca ladies are like this in real life? Gotta love booze! It's the one time the "shows" become a bit more real! Teasers lose their inhibitions, things go further than the stage-managed norm. Let's not forget, everything here revolves around money. I'm not privy to RLC's payroll but, I doubt they have many/any doing it for free? RLC are in it to make money, the participants are there to make money and we pick up the tab to watch, if we want to!

1 hour ago, dave0000 said:

if you had the owner of RLC or VHTV  in front of you, what would you say to them? 

I can't speak for VHTV but, RLC also needs to sort out the streaming. Secondly, communication is a big issue. I know they are inundated with people making complaints about not liking someone or other trivial matters, but they ignore genuine enquiries. For example, I asked support if, given the new prices, I had to cancel and re-subscribe. (I'm on a rolling monthly contract) They never bothered to reply. I got my answer when they took nearly $50 off my bank account for what has become a lesser product. The reality is, you can't please all the people all the time. There are those who want true voyeurism and those who want sex. While the staged stuff bores me, it's slightly better than watching people sitting around watching their phones? If you owned RLC, what would you do?

6 hours ago, dave0000 said:

Do you think giving the participants incentives for page views is ruining true voyeurism and should be changed?  If so how?

Sorry, I didn't mean to appear argumentative. There are many on the site who want true voyeurism but most like the sex. Watch the thumbs and most of the time, anyone having sex is the top one. As Pleasant said, the incentives lead to "shows" which clearly many like. Sex sells. Personally, the shows bore me. I like the sex when it's unexpected like the Twins, Regie and Sher, Rose Belle and Mo. With incentives based on views, many participants have learnt how to exploit it and fair enough. They reward those who make an effort rather than those who are there for a free holiday in Barcelona or a free apartment. It's far from perfect but, if people want to watch the shows, that's up to them.

17 minutes ago, dave0000 said:

I've been watching RLC off and on since maybe 2015, subscribed for a few months until I had problems with Segpay. I do remember a point a few years back when it was pretty much only Leora doing teases directly for the camera. The rest of the couples just did there regular thing, but at some point they all started doing stuff directed to the camera, at which point I figured RLC started giving some kind of incentive for page views. I believe this was the point were as people here have said "real voyeurism ended" then all the new web sites popped up and they were doing the same thing. I believe Voyeur- villa was the first before all the rest.

My point here being: to get back the real voyeurism aspect of theses sites you would need to get rid of all incentives for getting people to watch them and go back to just hanging out and living their lives. I don't think that will happen, financial gain has become a key part of the industry.

I see a lot of people here, angry at the way things have changed. I would like to get some discussion going here as to what people feel about this issue.  Am I completely off base here? What would you like to see change? If you could make a new site what would you make it into?

I for one kind of like the way it is, if only they could tone it down a bit, less group sex and fake masturbation or like I like to call it "mock-turbation" lol Just be real, but do it naked! I don't personally mind them being on CB or MFC (way less latency and better close up views) In a perfect world they shouldn't need to. the web site should just pay them more so they can go about their lives, but I don't think that will happen. If camming keeps them on, then more power to them.

What do you as the viewer want to see? Lets talk about it sensibly and maybe the site owners will read this a get some ideas.

That's quite an essay to address. Firstly, Leora was one of the first on RLC and she learnt the game pretty fast. Good on her. As new places came online she had to up her game and she did so. Many still think she's the queen of RLC? I have no idea about the finances of the couples places are, but the finances of the Barca places are well known. Standard fee plus bonuses based on viewership. I'm not sure how that will work after the purge but, there is an incentive to preform!  There are a lot of angry people on RLCF. The reasons are multiple and varied. Much of the bitterness seems to come from those who don't subscribe and are upset that they can't get what most of us pay for? Cry me a river! As for the Barca ladies, this is a job. They basically have three months to get their bonuses make as much money as they can in order to get an invite back. You get some who go all out for the bonuses, then you get those like Karina and the other one, who do fuck all for two months then, have a brief flurry at the end hoping it will fool us all. With Sophie there, you're going to see a lot of "mock-turbation"  and, if you haven't seen her before, you'll get  lesson in cock-teasing.

Masha is a good looking lady, but, for reasons I don't know, I'm not interested? As far as giving all tastes what they want, she does quite well. Sex, drama, lesbo, guests. She ticks all the boxes but, I really don't care! I don't know how she's going to maintain interest on RLC as a single, but, I'm guessing it's going to be as fake as the Barca places? Still, I can't blame her. It's better than a sofa on VHTV.

I think RLC needs to look at reducing the girls on vacation term from three months to two, especially for new ladies. I know this will add extra costs but, too many of the girls seem to loose interest or run out of steam when they reach the third month. The likes of the triplets and others who have been on RLC before, know what to expect and how to handle it. (It makes it a lot easier given the triplets are based in Spain.) Others, especially new ladies don't. There can be a few reasons for this, boredom, homesickness, want to get back to the boyfriend etc. To use an example, Amalia. She has been a lot of fun and is someone I would like to see back again. That being said, look at her lately. Since Pam left, she seems to have lost all interest and stays in her room most of the time. She is one of many who now seem to just go through the motions, waiting to be set free? There could be an argument for setting things up so all the ladies in B1 and B2 arrive and leave at the same time but, I like watching how newbies integrate, or don't. Perhaps, like RLC have done with Numi, if they are there for three months, swap them around between GP, B1 and B2?

On 7/7/2019 at 12:08 PM, iloner said:

Asia does seem genuine in her liking for H, despite the other women.

She accepts the way he earns his crust, just like the other male partners on RLC accept their women earn their crust displaying their bodies during sex.

I guess its equality in relationships.

True, but, there is a difference between getting naked or having a bit of staged lesbian stuff and boning a series of other women. As you say, she seems to accept it? I wonder how he would react if she started bringing other men home? Sadly for her, I doubt he'd give a shit! This is, at best, a very one sided relationship. More likely, a relationship of convenience. 

4 hours ago, Vaz said:

Well said.

Yet some still say they are a couple and he's "cheating" on her. Nothing but make-believe for the fantasists and morons.

Or the gullible. There have been suggestions that some "relationships" on RLC are less than real? No shit! For the participants, it's a job. I don't know Sofie but, I'm guessing she doesn't have these "massages" with other women when she's away from the camera? Personally, I hope Asia tells Harkeem to fuck off and she  gets a man who will treat her with some respect, rather than someone who does the deed in order to get a free place to stay!

2 hours ago, RUBBERMAN said:

I wish her departure would come sooner then planed..."she is boring as hell, and does nothing for the B2 apartment."  It would have been nice for RLC to have sent someone from B1 or the GP apartment to help the B2 apartment come alive again instead of sending all the the new personal to the GP.   She is nothing but a WASTE of space!!!   All she does is the same BORING SHIT WITH the vacation apartment every week...all three are looking more and more stupid and staged!!!

Very true. I didn't watch her at all on her on her last tour as I knew what was coming. A shame because the bird she was with was a good looking one. Still,  she has brought a little life to two of the most boring housemates ever. Yes, it's the same boring old shit but, given the state of RLC at the moment, we have to take what we can get!

On 7/5/2019 at 12:37 PM, Bandit said:

Some of you really are thick as shit thinking this is not just make believe and Asia doesn't know what's happening. These two are about as Real a couple as the Barcelona girls and Masha being lesbian. 

It's strange that so many wanted a place that spoke English. They got one, yet few seem to listen. If they had, they'd know Asia knows about everything. They are a fake "couple," hence their sexual debut where Hark needed to ask if he should wear a sperm catcher. Surely, had they done the deed before, he would have known? I think Hark is a gigolo. Asia's role is a bit more obscure? My theory, Hark is a male prostitute, Asia loves him and they got the place on the pretence of being a "couple". They are not! 

I have to give Sofie credit. She has a way of getting others to do what she wants. Karina and Amira were going along quite happily, doing nothing. Sofie changed that. Not a lot, but, we live in hope. Last night, not only did Karina get naked outside the bathroom, but, while they were sort of fingering each other, in the boring massage way,  Karina, did, briefly, cop a feel of both Sofies and Amira's pussy's. Admittedly, it was a case of, blink and you'd miss it, but, it was a start. Give her another 10 years and who knows what will happen? This wouldn't have happened without Sofie. My advice to Sofie, try look like it's not just a job. Have fun, get pissed and when RLC is done, which could be quite soon, get a job in sales. You'll make a fortune!

34 minutes ago, King Hamlet said:

Just when you think things couldn't get any worse. They do.

When it comes to dealing with a problem, RLC seem to have written the book of how not to do it. 

There have been many conspiracy theories about what someone quite accurately described as "the purge". The three main theories seem to be Putin, Russian Mafia and a money laundering scheme that got busted? I think this may be the first time these words have ever been spoken outside the Russian media, but, I believe, in this case, Putin is innocent. His control over the internet doesn't happen until November.  That leaves us with the mafia and money laundering. VHTV were subjected to the Ukrainian mafia. They had to shut down all their Ukrainian operations. A fatal blow, you might think? Apparently not. I'm not on VHTV but, I believe they recovered and are gaining viewers. When their "purge" happened, they seemed to be very open and honest about it. I think subscribers to VHTV understood the situation was beyond VHTV's control and cut them some slack. RLC could have learnt a lot from that. If they faced a similar problem, just say so! They clearly didn't learn a thing. Perhaps, as the industry leaders in terms of views ( I don't know if that's a fact?) they have become arrogant? Pride comes before the fall! Well, how the "mighty" have fallen!   If you try to rebuild, have the decency to reply to your customers. If RLC is whats to survive this, they are going to have to need to have a serious look at their customer service. Treat customers like shit and you will get the same!

2 minutes ago, StnCld316 said:

Contact Segpay and tell them to Cancel and get a Refund of what they just took.   If you don't say Cancel they'll just keep taking the Money every Month.

Thanks. I cancelled. Because it renewed, I have a month left. I will see what happens but, they way things are at the moment, I will probably wait for better days before resubscribing.  What I found interesting was they charged me $49.40 when, if I remember correctly, the cost was advertised at $45 for 30 days? Their is either a hidden fee somewhere or, the price is fixed at the exchange rate that was applicable on the day I subscribed. They don't tell you that so I wonder how much extra I have been paying over the years?

I still haven't heard anything from support but my monthly contract renewed today. They took £38.99 which is $49.40. Looks like you have to cancel and resubscribe or they will keep charging you the old prices. Bloody thieves! 

2 hours ago, Shaggy said:

Hell will freeze over before you get a reply. The customer service is a joke. 

You're right, and still no reply. I understand their silence when it's the usual complaints they get but you'd think something like this was worth clarifying? It must be easier than having to deal with a lot of people being overcharged and demanding the difference be refunded? Anyway, I will soon find out as my subscription ends on the 27th.