I am done...

[gilbert]

3 hours ago, iloner said:

Hi Gilbert,

I admire your tenacity - this is reminding me of those 'discussions' on CC (I haven't looked at CC for months).  

We agree we do want to see some sex, but disagree that that is the main purpose of the site.    RLC is a voyeur site, so sex is incidental to the main interest which is the real lives of people 24/7 - and yes sex is a part of that, but not all the time and not for all the tenants.   There are many recent tenants who never had sex in B1 and B2 and long stayers in other apartments too, like Doe Eyes and Taboo.   And lots of us gained a lot of enjoyment watching all of these people.

The point of a voyeur site is you do pay to watch them brush their teeth, watch tv, read books, talk and be on their phones endlessly, BECAUSE once in a while there is an unforeseeable and unforgettable moment of magic.

There have been several men through B1 and B2 in the past few months.    In B1 alone since Xmas, Jess had Man Mountain, Nora had Kiko, Nicole had two hefty Spanish blokes, Stella had some drug related bloke, and Irma had a long-haired friend and Alex.   That's just what I remember.   Several Spanish and one American have visited B2 as well.   

Why are men banned?    Probably no one has banned anyone.    The current crop of girls have not wanted to bring anyone in.    Simple.

If you read back through Forum you will find lots of references to male visitors.

I have answered your simple question fully because if you and others understand you are actually getting what you pay for you may get more positive pleasure out of this site, which for all its faults is still the very best site of its kind.

 

 

There have been dozens of complaints against the barca apts recently. The girls are out a lot, no men come to visit, no sex etc  All the complaints are valid Rlc have loyal customers. They can choose to ignore them if they wish. I hope we are helpful in improving the product, bur we are only helpful if people listen. For me personally, I have not seen one man other than Alex in the past 2 months. He is  unquestionably impotent which is a medical condition. If you watch the KKH apt you can witness the normal interaction between men and women in a girls apt. This is what I expect, and what I paid for. It is a normal expectation. I want to see this in the barca apts.  It is called real life. If real life cam does not want to show real life than it is false advertising. When I see real men there then I am watching real life. I am happy to pay for that. What I have received so far is not real life

[CowArt]

20 hours ago, jugghead said:

Hi guys. I don't often go to the forum section and I agree that the complaining is ridiculous. But I think you guys get too offended. Cowart, it's ok to ignore those conversations, but I think there are enough people here who would like to see you participate in the chat. I'm sure if enough of you start your own conversations you'll overshadow the conspiracy theories and the negativity. Btw, I also enjoy watching the ladies in their natural state. I do admit that I like some of the porn-style things. But, I mostly go to RLC to look at beautiful women in their natural state. And I hope they enjoy me watching them naked in their environments. I DON'T want them to jump through hoops like monkeys. I DO enjoy when I make "suggestions" to them. And I fantasize they comply. But it is always their choice in my mind. After all, it IS named REALLIFE.

Thanks jugghead, but I tried that for a couple of weeks already, and it isn't working for me. I log on to RLC and RLCF to have a good time, a distraction from every day life and all the horrors I see on the news. All the bitching, moaning and ridiculous theories don't add to that. I did my best to keep a positive note on the chat and failed, so I followed my own advice from one of my earlier posts in this topic: "Don't get worked up over things that are beyond your control". I try to do some postings in the fan pages instead, because those were starting to turn into a wasteland, and moved elsewhere for conversation.

[Scotsman84]

Sex in B1 & B2 you having a laugh.. it's hard enough for most of them to masturbate, never mind bring someone home for sex. You want sex don't waste your time with they Apartments.

[Scotsman84]

Is it just me or does everyone that joins here these day Fucking know - it - alls..

Some of you are a Pain in the ass.

[Scotsman84]

On the other hand.. Funny watching them trying to be better than the other... But like Most no proof. lol

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[dougiestyle4u]

    I would rather hand over 2 pennies than offer my two cents worth of opinion - since the chatters are not worth trying to make ANY common sense or even argue with (especially with respect to the Barca apartments) - sheeesh!!!

[Capeguy]

On ‎4‎/‎21‎/‎2017 at 6:06 PM, iloner said:

The great times often flow from the personalities of one or two great girls.    Girls change or don't interact as well with different sets of girls.    So this route doesn't work reliably and consistently.

Sometimes they flow from the use of special  substances - alcohol etc.  Trouble is, there's a strong moral streak amongst our community of caring perverts and there were too many complaints.   So RLC had to stop the use of stimulants. 

As for stopping bringing in blokes  - probably because so many subscribers complained loudly, mainly about fat Alex the Photographer.

With so many viewers whatever RLC does will always meet with a chorus of disapproval.    But if subs are down they won't give up trying.   

Perhaps the 'moral' subscribers will have got bored with endless bodypainting and have gone elsewhere, leaving the field clear to bring back another Lola type plan to chivvy things up.

My twopennorth to RLC .... give your customers what they want and their wallets will follow - but for gods sake take no notice of what they say.

 

Ask and you shall receive; not only do you get another Lola, you get the original all over again! After her first few days it seems she has not changed much.

[Capeguy]

On ‎4‎/‎21‎/‎2017 at 6:54 PM, gilbert said:

The bottom line is people pay good money to see sex. What you see in barca right now demands a refund. You can go on chaturbate right now and see live single woman or couples giving you your moneys worth. You will get what you pay for. It is live and it is entertainment. It is not boring. Alex is impotent, He is a man with a medical condition. No woman in real life wouid invite him to their bedroom , unless it involved favors

Hey there I just wanted to point out that NO WHERE on RLC's site does it say you will see sex, and it never has said that! If you want to be able to click on a site and see sex then RLC is definitely not the place to plunk down your money. That being said, the current crop of couples have some real sex addicts: Linda/Tibor, the guests at Taya/Will who screw at least once a day; Martina/Alberto love to hump, Nelly and Bogdan and more. If Chaturbate is your thing then go there but set your RLC expectations accordingly or you most certainly will be upset.

[Capeguy]

On ‎4‎/‎21‎/‎2017 at 0:14 PM, gilbert said:

Had to comment on what you wrote. Rlc if nothing else are their own worst enemy. What they had back in December and January in the barca apts was amazing. I would gladly pay more, for more of the same, of that content. The parties were wild and exciting. Now there appears to be rule banning all forms of sex in those apts. Its not worth a nickel to pay. I never see men there as if they are afraid of them. Some of the girls appear to be bi- curious , but it is nothing resembling sex. Anything that happens that is exciting happens outside of the house where the paying customer does not see. You want to pay for a replay of something you haven't seen before, but why pay for something you can watch again,as in the couples apartments. Back in the times of the wild parties rlc would have made a fortune if they had replays

I agree with you that REPLAY is a cool tool, I just wish it covered a longer period of time. The only issue is it is expensive when you figure it out on top of the regular fee; even if you do a long-term subscription. If I were RLC I would have a 'REPLAY' subscription, which would be Premium + Replay for about $50/month, $125 for 3 months. and $225 for 6 months. It gets rid of being logged on for hours and seeing nothing, then everything happens right after you leave. You can get on to see what is happening and go to Replay to see ALL the stuff you missed and you get to forward through the boring parts.  

[Capeguy]

On ‎4‎/‎22‎/‎2017 at 9:38 PM, gilbert said:

There have been dozens of complaints against the barca apts recently. The girls are out a lot, no men come to visit, no sex etc  All the complaints are valid Rlc have loyal customers. They can choose to ignore them if they wish. I hope we are helpful in improving the product, bur we are only helpful if people listen. For me personally, I have not seen one man other than Alex in the past 2 months. He is  unquestionably impotent which is a medical condition. If you watch the KKH apt you can witness the normal interaction between men and women in a girls apt. This is what I expect, and what I paid for. It is a normal expectation. I want to see this in the barca apts.  It is called real life. If real life cam does not want to show real life than it is false advertising. When I see real men there then I am watching real life. I am happy to pay for that. What I have received so far is not real life

Gilbert, First, there have been men at KKH but they are usually there very late, are usually drunk, want sex and get none. The only one getting anything recently has been Heidi. If Kami and Kristy are having sex it is at their BFs place. When the guys are there everyone gets all ready for something, but get nothing. If men were to visit at B1/B2 then a lot of viewers would complain because it forces the other girls to stay covered up, cause friction with the other girls and there would be no nudity. This happened a lot when Nicole was there and had a guy over on a regular basis; she is ruining it for us and the others, she must be a real slut bringing a guy in for sex and on and on it went. You cannot have it both ways. As CowArt said earlier, with the exception of the drug-fueled Lola parties, B1/B2 are pretty quiet. The Irma/Jess/Ilona period was an exception.

[gilbert]

Yes, I believe you are right. Real life cam should not show real life at all. And you are right they should not show sex at all, at the barca apts. I hope you see the sarcasm in my remarks. We pay to see real life, and we pay to see sex. And yes it would very entertaining if one of the girls any girl would bring a guy home. Vastly more entertaining than what is on the plate now. Oh do not let me forget a man was brought home. An impotent one We all wanted to see that. He was allowed. Great representation there. Thank you for posting your remarks It helped to decide NOT to renew. I am sick of the lack of diversity. Where are the black, asian, indian or asian women on this site. No sex at the barca apts, no men allowed. Someone is pulling the strings and it is the customer who is the loser. Keep in mind I say all of this as a huge fan of RLC. I will pop in from time to time on RLCF and I may return some day if some of the changes happen that I have mentioned. The rest of you can continue to watch this B movie called the barca girls. Where all the men in Barcelona, perhaps the world have disappeared. Will all girls turn bisexual, or have no sex at all. Stay tuned it is on 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Enjoy.

[iloner]

Hi Gilbert,

RLC can be bloody frustrating.    Last night Lola taught a masterclass in girl-girl and my system won't display the main screen, only the thumbnails.     Best thing that happened for me this year was Jess licked to orgasm by Irma - and my Subs expired that very day so I missed it.    Like everyone, I watch for hours with little reward.     

When the reward comes it is minute things that do not happen elsewhere.

You analyse the problems and you are right.    Several of us have pointed out that despite the frustrations and the problems there is much to enjoy.   Here is a community of like-minded and usually positive people who share your desires, but perhaps have been beaten into submission by years of not getting everything they want.

I think you have listened.    Your analysis is good.    My guess is you won't find what you want elsewhere and will be back.   I hope so.     Your posts are good.

For all its faults RLC is the best site of its kind.

[gilbert]

It is due to no fault of the amazing people here on RLCF. Whether you agree or have disagreed with me .Thank you for all your comments. Yes, if they find a way to fix things I will be back.  The people on chat, you are the best.

[ed2]

Hi !@CowArt

Sorry, I know I'm one of those negative posters. I'm sorry I've been one of those who ruin the good atmosphere. I'm guilty, but feel sorry. Don't take it too hard. Hope you'll come to the chat more often again CowArt, you're a nice guy.

I've read this thread, and I'll tell you what I'm thinking:

1. On the matter of accusations of prostitution. I'm pretty sure Lima was. She had some very explicite phone calls in english on cam. I've seen things from others too, but nothing so explicite, so it remains assumptions on my part. I wouldn't bee surprised if several of the girls are in that kind of business though, but I think no less of them for that. 

My question, why do some members get offended to read such things about the girls? I see that many accusations are only unbacked insults, but I also see unconditionally defend of the girls' dignity. Don't get too attatched to the tenants, and let critique offend you. We pay to watch them. RLC isn't exactly sunday school either!

2. On the matter of complaining. I take self critique for always sounding negative, I also will try to bee more positive. When that is said, I think I'm of a different opinion than you @CowArt. I never wanted to join a fan club where you only read comments like "X is spreading her legs" or "I think Y looks so lovely". I wanted a place to hear, share and discuss thoughts and theories about RLC and what we opserve. As voyeurs we notice details in the tenants' life, most often it is nothing, but we deduct and make us up a picture of what is going on. I want to share and discuss this. Even if I think a theory is stupid, it gives me some perspective.

I thank @texl01 and @toolmaker123 for not give warnings or even ban people only for dissagreeing, like I've both wittnessed and experienced at CC.

3. On the matter of expectations. I admitt to not beeing easily satisfied. I want real life. It can bee boring, but I accept that. I love n&k, and Adriana or Maya can bee great too, I never complained about that.

I like the concept of girls apartments, but disslike RLC's chose of casting. When the girls of Barcelona do endless tease shows, hide to masturbate, and the action there is is too obviosly orchestrated, I complain. I can find still pictures of naked bodies or staged porn elsewhere, the internet is full of it, when I come to RLC I expect something more realistic. I like Heidi, and Barca were great with girls like Nicole, and also Lima if I remember correctly.

 

P.S. This is just my opinions, I don't want to sound hard on anyone, but my english is not the best, so I can fail to express my nuances.

[CowArt]

1 hour ago, ed2 said:

Hi !@CowArt

Sorry, I know I'm one of those negative posters. I'm sorry I've been one of those who ruin the good atmosphere. I'm guilty, but feel sorry. Don't take it too hard. Hope you'll come to the chat more often again CowArt, you're a nice guy.

I've read this thread, and I'll tell you what I'm thinking:

1. On the matter of accusations of prostitution. I'm pretty sure Lima was. She had some very explicite phone calls in english on cam. I've seen things from others too, but nothing so explicite, so it remains assumptions on my part. I wouldn't bee surprised if several of the girls are in that kind of business though, but I think no less of them for that. 

My question, why do some members get offended to read such things about the girls? I see that many accusations are only unbacked insults, but I also see unconditionally defend of the girls' dignity. Don't get too attatched to the tenants, and let critique offend you. We pay to watch them. RLC isn't exactly sunday school either!

I've seen some things on the cameras that make me wonder as well, but that was a while ago. What bothers me it that in the last (three?) months, the go-to explanation for everything that happens in or outside the apartment is that the girls are selling their bodies to the highest bidder. I am certainly not getting too attached to the tenants, but I find it very offensive and insulting to be calling some of the girls prostitutes without a shred of evidence. That's just plain rude. Maybe the girls are out a bit to much for some peoples taste, but that's no reason to lash out at them like that.

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2. On the matter of complaining. I take self critique for always sounding negative, I also will try to bee more positive. When that is said, I think I'm of a different opinion than you @CowArt. I never wanted to join a fan club where you only read comments like "X is spreading her legs" or "I think Y looks so lovely". I wanted a place to hear, share and discuss thoughts and theories about RLC and what we opserve. As voyeurs we notice details in the tenants' life, most often it is nothing, but we deduct and make us up a picture of what is going on. I want to share and discuss this. Even if I think a theory is stupid, it gives me some perspective.

I thank @texl01 and @toolmaker123 for not give warnings or even ban people only for dissagreeing, like I've both wittnessed and experienced at CC.

I don't mind opposing views, I like a good discussion as much as the next guy. And yes, I enjoy watching the girls, and express that by posting things like "Look at Rosie's bum ", of "Oh wow, Gina is flashing the kitty ". When things are boring I will also admit that, we don't have to avoid negative post all together, when it's not good, it's not good, and I don't mind other people posting that things are boring this particular night, or that girl such and such did something stupid, but I have a major issue with people  (this is not directed at you @ed2, by the way) spamming the chatbox with literally hundreds (!) of posts (and another estimated 300 in the CamCaps forums) with their crusade against RLC, how it's a ripoff, how the girls are not doing what they are paid for, being out all the time. If your really dislike RLC that much stop sending them your money, get another hobby, and let the rest of us enjoy RLC and have a pleasant conversation. I have no interest in wading through a ton of post of someone "defending the rights of the RLC customers". I am a customer, and I can take care of myself, thank you very much. 

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3. On the matter of expectations. I admitt to not beeing easily satisfied. I want real life. It can bee boring, but I accept that. I love n&k, and Adriana or Maya can bee great too, I never complained about that.

I like the concept of girls apartments, but disslike RLC's chose of casting. When the girls of Barcelona do endless tease shows, hide to masturbate, and the action there is is too obviosly orchestrated, I complain. I can find still pictures of naked bodies or staged porn elsewhere, the internet is full of it, when I come to RLC I expect something more realistic. I like Heidi, and Barca were great with girls like Nicole, and also Lima if I remember correctly.

That's okay, we all have different expectations, but they need to be realistic, otherwise you're setting yourself up for disappointment. I won't call myself a veteran, I've been around for close to a year and a half, some users way longer than that, but the Barcelona apartments (well, there was only one at first) have always been like this, with the exceptions you mentioned. If it's not to your liking, fine, there are plenty of other apartments. The "vacation" apartments are different from the rest of RLC. The girls are only there for a short while, go out to enjoy the city (and right they are) and show on the cameras what they are comfortable with. For some girls that is more than for other girls. Some will bend themselves over backwards trying to avoid as much nudity as possible on the cameras, others retreive the Pink Tarzan from their drawer and take it for a spin. And once in a while they have some activity which seems orchestrated, but the way I see it, they're at least making an effort to entertain the viewers for a night. Yes, it might be repetitive, but there's only so many things you can come up with (bodypaint, massages, shared baths, you name it). I'd rather watch some orchestrated activity with interaction between the girls, than all girls in their own rooms glued to their phones. I am very easily entertained. I watch seven girls in their lingerie or less on my screen, and I am entertained, anything more I consider a bonus. I'm on RLC just for the boobs and bums, and on RLCF for a nice conversation about said boobs and bums.  

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P.S. This is just my opinions, I don't want to sound hard on anyone, but my english is not the best, so I can fail to express my nuances.

I welcome your opinions, and your English seems just fine to me. Then again, it's not my native language as well, it happens to all of us that something we tried our hardest to post in correct English misses some nuance.