texl01 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Thanks for a response Vortios. The definitions I see on google are sexually orientated , I think the word voyuer comes from the French language - " to see". A voyeur looking at RLC may have their curiosity fulfilled by the sight of someone's feet or toes.hands or under the arms. If a motor vehicle accident occurs, human nature dictates us to look - being a voyeur. If that person stops and tries to get as close to the scene as possible, to hopefully see blood and gore this is dysfunctional. We allow ourselves to observe what is considered "normal" and is ego-syntonic. In the RLC scenario , We watch in anticipation of views that satisfy the curiosity, and hope to see more of exposed females (or males) . Bras and panties are nice but full nakedness is better for most ?? In Pornography there is no waiting - incase it might happen. Mother / Son sex, we know we will see an elder woman and young man have sex. Big Breasts, Close-ups, Hairy, - these topics are what you get to see. Z & L's guest 'Tabu' obviously has large breasts - But we never have seen them. The chance or hope we may, is the voyeuristic trait which brings us back to observe incase we see them. I am just trying to point out , that there is a difference between Voyuer Site and Porn Site. You do have a right to complain, however RLC do not make promises or guarantees of "Big Breasts,Close-ups or Hairy." We see people, who supposedly are in a natural environment and not staged. People having sex but it may be undercover. If I went to a restaurant and did not get the expected, I would not go back. MacDonald's sells burgers, KFC chicken. You know what you are going to get. I guess RLC is Chef's Surprise of the Day. I have NO connection to RLC or Associates. These are my own opinions and in no way mean to be offensive or critical of others. Gracias por una respuesta Vortios. Las definiciones que veo en google son sexualmente orientadas, creo que la palabra voyuer viene de la lengua francesa - "ver". Un voyeur que mira a RLC puede tener su curiosidad satisfecha por la vista de los pies de alguien o dedos de los pies. Manos o debajo de los brazos. Si ocurre un accidente automovilístico, la naturaleza humana nos manda ver - ser un voyeur. Si esa persona se detiene y trata de acercarse lo más posible a la escena, para ver con esperanza sangre y sangre, esto es disfuncional. Nos permitimos observar lo que se considera "normal" y es ego-sintónico. En el escenario del RLC, miramos con anticipación a las vistas que satisfacen la curiosidad, y esperamos ver más de hembras expuestas (o varones). Los sujetadores y las bragas son agradables pero la desnudez completa es mejor para la mayoría? En Pornography no hay espera - en caso de que pueda suceder. Madre / Hijo sexo, sabemos que vamos a ver a una anciana y el hombre joven tienen relaciones sexuales. Big Breasts, Close-ups, Peludo, - estos temas son lo que se puede ver. El huésped de Z & L 'Tabu' obviamente tiene pechos grandes - Pero nunca los hemos visto. La oportunidad o esperanza que podamos, es el rasgo voyeurista que nos trae de vuelta a observar en caso de que los veamos. Sólo estoy tratando de señalar, que hay una diferencia entre Voyuer Site y Porn Site. Usted tiene derecho a quejarse, sin embargo, RLC no hace promesas ni garantías de "Big Breasts, Close-ups o Hairy". Vemos personas, que supuestamente están en un entorno natural y no están en escena. Las personas que tienen relaciones sexuales, pero puede estar encubierto. Si fui a un restaurante y no conseguir lo esperado, no volvería. MacDonald's vende hamburguesas, pollo KFC. Sabes lo que vas a conseguir. Supongo que RLC es la sorpresa del chef del día. No tengo conexión con RLC o Asociados. Estas son mis propias opiniones y de ninguna manera significan ser ofensivas o críticas de los demás. texl01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolmaker123 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 2 hours ago, texl01 said: Thanks for a response Vortios. The definitions I see on google are sexually orientated , I think the word voyuer comes from the French language - " to see". A voyeur looking at RLC may have their curiosity fulfilled by the sight of someone's feet or toes.hands or under the arms. If a motor vehicle accident occurs, human nature dictates us to look - being a voyeur. If that person stops and tries to get as close to the scene as possible, to hopefully see blood and gore this is dysfunctional. We allow ourselves to observe what is considered "normal" and is ego-syntonic. In the RLC scenario , We watch in anticipation of views that satisfy the curiosity, and hope to see more of exposed females (or males) . Bras and panties are nice but full nakedness is better for most ?? In Pornography there is no waiting - incase it might happen. Mother / Son sex, we know we will see an elder woman and young man have sex. Big Breasts, Close-ups, Hairy, - these topics are what you get to see. Z & L's guest 'Tabu' obviously has large breasts - But we never have seen them. The chance or hope we may, is the voyeuristic trait which brings us back to observe incase we see them. I am just trying to point out , that there is a difference between Voyuer Site and Porn Site. You do have a right to complain, however RLC do not make promises or guarantees of "Big Breasts,Close-ups or Hairy." We see people, who supposedly are in a natural environment and not staged. People having sex but it may be undercover. If I went to a restaurant and did not get the expected, I would not go back. MacDonald's sells burgers, KFC chicken. You know what you are going to get. I guess RLC is Chef's Surprise of the Day. I have NO connection to RLC or Associates. These are my own opinions and in no way mean to be offensive or critical of others. Gracias por una respuesta Vortios. Las definiciones que veo en google son sexualmente orientadas, creo que la palabra voyuer viene de la lengua francesa - "ver". Un voyeur que mira a RLC puede tener su curiosidad satisfecha por la vista de los pies de alguien o dedos de los pies. Manos o debajo de los brazos. Si ocurre un accidente automovilístico, la naturaleza humana nos manda ver - ser un voyeur. Si esa persona se detiene y trata de acercarse lo más posible a la escena, para ver con esperanza sangre y sangre, esto es disfuncional. Nos permitimos observar lo que se considera "normal" y es ego-sintónico. En el escenario del RLC, miramos con anticipación a las vistas que satisfacen la curiosidad, y esperamos ver más de hembras expuestas (o varones). Los sujetadores y las bragas son agradables pero la desnudez completa es mejor para la mayoría? En Pornography no hay espera - en caso de que pueda suceder. Madre / Hijo sexo, sabemos que vamos a ver a una anciana y el hombre joven tienen relaciones sexuales. Big Breasts, Close-ups, Peludo, - estos temas son lo que se puede ver. El huésped de Z & L 'Tabu' obviamente tiene pechos grandes - Pero nunca los hemos visto. La oportunidad o esperanza que podamos, es el rasgo voyeurista que nos trae de vuelta a observar en caso de que los veamos. Sólo estoy tratando de señalar, que hay una diferencia entre Voyuer Site y Porn Site. Usted tiene derecho a quejarse, sin embargo, RLC no hace promesas ni garantías de "Big Breasts, Close-ups o Hairy". Vemos personas, que supuestamente están en un entorno natural y no están en escena. Las personas que tienen relaciones sexuales, pero puede estar encubierto. Si fui a un restaurante y no conseguir lo esperado, no volvería. MacDonald's vende hamburguesas, pollo KFC. Sabes lo que vas a conseguir. Supongo que RLC es la sorpresa del chef del día. No tengo conexión con RLC o Asociados. Estas son mis propias opiniones y de ninguna manera significan ser ofensivas o críticas de los demás. texl01 Very well stated; intelligent and to the point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iloner Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I don't want RLC to be a porn site. There's plenty of those I watch when RLC gets beyond my boredom threshold. I enjoy the Barcas concept of Voyeur Tease. Mostly nothing comes of it but I love those few moments a year when unexpectedly real life offers real passion. RLC collects large numbers of extra subscribers over and above the normal apartments because B1 and B2 offers something they don't. This is basically a set of expectations which are often unfulfilled. If they were never fulfilled then they would no longer be reasonable expectations. Those whose favourites have not 'performed' can stop paying, but before they do that their subscription is wasting away and they complain in order to try to get value from it. This does not mean they want RLC to become a porn site. Only that their hoped-for expectations are not being met. If nudity and sex were certain it wouldn't be a tease. The 'tease' relies on there being uncertainty. Equally though, if there was not a reasonable expectation that nudity and sex would happen, then it wouldn't be a tease either. Its like a fruit machine. RLC sets the odds by casting different types of girls, some more likely to perform than others, some paid more to give more, and we all hope for a jackpot - which of course is rare. When we, individuals within a body of subscribers, feel the odds are against us, we unsubscribe. But RLC wants more and more subscriptions; so when they go down it sweetens the odds. After all, once a one-arm-bandit gets a reputation for never paying a jackpot who plays the machine? So I'm with Vortios - if there's never any sex we'll all stop watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drenaii Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 17 hours ago, vortios said: Explain, with all my respect, a pornographic site, and a voyeur site, where explicit sex is shown. Please, I do not get to differentiate. You mean that people, as if we were people, I must say more, in a malloria customers who pay religiously every month ... and we have no right to complain? I give you a kind example ... You go to a restaurant with five forks, because you think you will eat marevilla, good service, excellent presentation, and a price according to expectations, it is never cheap ... But when it comes to eating, the dishes are bland, they do not have that taste of good food, but they know industrial food, things you can eat, but it's not the quality you expect ... what do you do? Normally, as an educated person ask for the letter of claims. In our case, we do not have that letter, the most we can do is send an email, which has little effect, and complain on social networks. Well that's what we do. I clarify, personally, I do not care if they qualify as a voyeur site or pornographic site, since neither one thing nor the other bothers me. And if all this goes for the discussions of girls game, yes or no, I would ask ... You, in fact, believe that people would pay if they did not hope to see some show between girls. The girls are the big complaint. By the way, and you will have data that I do not have, but in the chat you may realize, that K & K have shown the public their true sexuality, has greatly diminished their comments. And not to tire, in a year that I have been a customer of RLC, nor is it that lesbian activities have been a generality. Vortios rlc is like reality tv, it simply offers "The private life of other people in live 24/7 ", therefore explicit sex that is protrayed is simply a part of reality, in the same way as sex is that you might have with your wife or girlfriend (you wouldn't call your own sexual adventures porn). it is true that nudity and sexual behaviour may be incentivised by rlc, but its not the primary point of rlc. like most people trying to sell a product it incorporates the saying "sex sells", the same as hollywood movies do, that doesn't make the movie porn. so rlc offers a fly on the wall view of peoples "real lives", including their sex, albeit with stacked odds in favour of driving traffic, while porn sells sex specifically to drive its traffic. complaining to rlc because your not getting as much sex or nudity as u would like, is sort of akin to looking online to buy a car. you find a car dealership offering a nice mini cooper so you buy, when they send you the mini, you decide to complain to the dealership because they did not send you a porche. if you want voyeurism (The private life of other people in live 24/7) go to rlc, if you only want explicit sex go to pornhub. texl01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iloner Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 8 hours ago, Drenaii said: rlc is like reality tv, it simply offers "The private life of other people in live 24/7 ", therefore explicit sex that is protrayed is simply a part of reality, in the same way as sex is that you might have with your wife or girlfriend (you wouldn't call your own sexual adventures porn). it is true that nudity and sexual behaviour may be incentivised by rlc, but its not the primary point of rlc. like most people trying to sell a product it incorporates the saying "sex sells", the same as hollywood movies do, that doesn't make the movie porn. so rlc offers a fly on the wall view of peoples "real lives", including their sex, albeit with stacked odds in favour of driving traffic, while porn sells sex specifically to drive its traffic. complaining to rlc because your not getting as much sex or nudity as u would like, is sort of akin to looking online to buy a car. you find a car dealership offering a nice mini cooper so you buy, when they send you the mini, you decide to complain to the dealership because they did not send you a porche. if you want voyeurism (The private life of other people in live 24/7) go to rlc, if you only want explicit sex go to pornhub. Hi Drenaii, A good post. I agree with the first paragraph. But RLC is not selling a defined product it is selling a service. We can reject our Mini or even our Porsche as unfit for purpose because what they should do and the way they should do it is defined. The service we are being sold is not so well defined. Whether we feel we are getting value for money at any one time is quite subjective. The only way we can complain we did not get what we pay for is if the service is cut off. It is like democracy. We may feel we have a say but actually we have to put up with what we get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capeguy Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 16 minutes ago, iloner said: Hi Drenaii, A good post. I agree with the first paragraph. But RLC is not selling a defined product it is selling a service. We can reject our Mini or even our Porsche as unfit for purpose because what they should do and the way they should do it is defined. The service we are being sold is not so well defined. Whether we feel we are getting value for money at any one time is quite subjective. The only way we can complain we did not get what we pay for is if the service is cut off. It is like democracy. We may feel we have a say but actually we have to put up with what we get. I agree with what both of you said. While I may be thrilled at seeing someone with naked tits sitting around on a phone all day, most would consider that a waste. If someone had a foot fetish then they might like watching Kristy play with her feet on and on and on. Each individual has to set their own definition of 'value' and they alone can determine if they are getting their money's worth. The only issue I have ever had is RLC advertising they give you 24x7 access to their lives, which is not true if the balconies/decks are not covered; and I consider that to be false advertising. Beyond that I think I generally see enough during a 30 day period to justify what I pay. Still, RLC could make their product a lot better but only a lack of members will ever cause that to happen. Good posts you 2. RUBBERMAN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drenaii Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 i would reply generally to the above 2 posts by suggesting that " The private life of other people in live 24/7 " is a definition albeit within a service and without specification such as in the car analogy. i made that analogy to highlight an unreasonable expectation by some people, but will agree that such a service does need a reward to maintain the intrigue that keeps people watching. the level of reward required i agree is subjective. i would add capeguy that we dont see them go shopping either, but i do agree its irritating not seeing whats going on from the balconies lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortios Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 11 hours ago, Drenaii said: RLC es como la realidad TV, simplemente ofrece "La vida privada de otras personas en vivo 24/7", por lo tanto sexo explícito que se protrayed es simplemente una parte de la realidad, de la misma manera como el sexo es que usted pueda tener con su esposa o novia (que no llamarían su propia aventuras sexuales porno). bien es cierto que la desnudez y el comportamiento sexual puede ser incentivados por RLC, pero no es el principal punto de RLC. como la mayoría de la gente tratando de vender un producto que incorpora el dicho "el sexo vende" , lo mismo que hacen las películas de Hollywood, que no tiene la película porno. de modo RLC ofrece una mosca en la pared de vista de los pueblos "vida real", incluyendo su sexo, aunque con probabilidades en favor de dirigir el tráfico, mientras que el porno sexo vende específicamente para impulsar su tráfico. quejándose de RLC porque tu no conseguir tanto el sexo o la desnudez como u quisiera, es una especie de parecido a buscar en línea para comprar un coche. a encontrar un concesionario de coches que ofrece un buen mini cooper por lo que comprar, cuando le envíen el mini, decide quejarse a la concesionaria porque no le envió un porche. si quieres voyeurismo (La vida privada de otras personas en vivo 24/7) hasta llegar a RLC, si sólo quiere sexo explícito ir a pornhub. You're wrong, I will not go in if I like him I buy a mini, wanting a porsche (Which one?) Is a little joke ... If I want to see explicit sex, I see any of the couples, I do not need to go to pornhud or other brand .... That reminds me in my youth the discussions of whether Playboy or Hustler ... From my point of view, does There was a significant difference ... today, that difference (in my opinion, it is not so clear). Sex sells, of course, who doubts it. The biggest business in the world, and the one that moves the most money is sex (it is also the one most used by criminals to launder money, most businesses are not very clear behind the sex business, and much more .. The mafia, the drug trafficking ... everything you want you can find it behind the sex) But since that's not the issue ... I leave it there. I complain of what I think can be improved and not improved. But I complain, for RLC, to make more money, because like this, we are happy, we will not complain, it is more we will speak well to the potential customers that enter new and approach to RLC for the first time. Believe it or not, I complain but a constructive complaint, as they say, we all want a camera on the balcony of B2, which is possible both for keeping the privacy of neighbors and street people, as the Privacy of the housing situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBBERMAN Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 I say RLC should change the name from Real Life Cam to "PHONE WATCH" this is what most of the people in the apartments do 99% of the time anyway. I believe they would have less problems if they didn't sit up most of the day and night reading every thing that we say and talk about, if they can't deal with criticism they don't need to be at RLC anyway, I notice after each sex act or masturbation set they run and check there phones as though there looking for some kind of grade, not all the apartments do this but most. Get rid of those cell phones RLC. DIRTYHARRY, Landais, Aussie_oi_oi_oi and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie_oi_oi_oi Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 On 9/19/2016 at 10:39 AM, RUBBERMAN said: Why not put cams on all the apartments patio's so the paying customers can see whats going on? So agree with you, all the best and interesting things happen on the patio's/ balcony's. RUBBERMAN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBBERMAN Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 On 11/24/2016 at 11:52 PM, Barks1 said: So agree with you, all the best and interesting things happen on the patio's/ balcony's. Whats the use, B2 has also gone from hiding on the balcony to now covering the cams. Aussie_oi_oi_oi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoubi1949 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 On 04/01/2016 at 8:24 PM, stampman said: I am not a paid member, but movable high def cameras with zoom would make for some amazing pictures! Thats nonsens since people would fight for zooming. Instead It would be interesting to use 4K streaming. This way you have a much higher resolution and you can zoom in on any part of the image and also follow people around. The camera can also be 180° such giving a much wider angle. The 4K streamin with a good compression algorythm would not eat much mor bandwith then the current one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoubi1949 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 On 17/11/2016 at 11:45 PM, Scotsman84 said: Don't know what the Laws are in Spain about this sort of thing, but surely could put something up looking for British/American girls for modelling then explain the situation... Can't be anymore boring than some of these Russians That is true I am sure some erasmus students would be happy to benefice for such an appartement against some nudity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metmij2 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 first Hi Rob1 hello all I have the best Idea for 2017 next kick out of RLC and why ,for what reason Maya and Stepan = Never Home and verry Boring and maibe the animals get a good place to stay . Adriana and Daniel = when Home boring , only Andriane playing with herself on the bed is worth watching Desiree and Raul = A fat child sleeping most of the day serrounded by stuffed animals only playing whit her left tits and she has two tits . Vanessa and Thomas = why are the Premium ?? no one seems to watch this couple most even know the are a couple in RLC . Julia and Eric = Julia she has no sex-apeal at all and mostly hidding under a blanked . Linda and Tibor = A too normal couple and she looks 40 but is maibe 24 ?? have sex 1 or 2 times a week to stay free in the house . These are my ideas , I like to Provocates !!! so don't bother explaining why I am wrong , or what I have written is insulting behaviour !! (I Know I am Rude lol ) Greetings from Metmij Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayjay6 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 5 hours ago, metmij2 said: first Hi Rob1 hello all I have the best Idea for 2017 next kick out of RLC and why ,for what reason Maya and Stepan = Never Home and verry Boring and maibe the animals get a good place to stay . Adriana and Daniel = when Home boring , only Andriane playing with herself on the bed is worth watching Desiree and Raul = A fat child sleeping most of the day serrounded by stuffed animals only playing whit her left tits and she has two tits . Vanessa and Thomas = why are the Premium ?? no one seems to watch this couple most even know the are a couple in RLC . Julia and Eric = Julia she has no sex-apeal at all and mostly hidding under a blanked . Linda and Tibor = A too normal couple and she looks 40 but is maibe 24 ?? have sex 1 or 2 times a week to stay free in the house . These are my ideas , I like to Provocates !!! so don't bother explaining why I am wrong , or what I have written is insulting behaviour !! (I Know I am Rude lol ) Greetings from Metmij I agree with these couples and I would add: Dasha and Demid = Boring Nina and Kira = Boring and not home very much I was going to list Carina and Sabrina but noticed that they are gone now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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