Suggestions and Feedback

[StnCld316]

As many know the Forum has been at an almost standstill pace for awhile now. I myself have tried endlessly to try and come up with ways to get things going on the RLC Topics with Pictures and Videos but each and every time I got something going the DMCA seemed to get in the way of making anything happen.  VHTV Topics seem to get some action but more participation is needed.

Maybe this Forum needs to go in a different direction.  Anyone got some Suggestions for some new ideas and we'll go at it from there. 

[Scorpio 22]

Personally think both RLC and VHTV in current states are waste of time. So dull and predictable. One reason I think many have found other things to do. Apart from thinking of other topics to get others involved, can't think currently of anything else that would improve the forum. 

[StnCld316]

42 minutes ago, Scorpio 22 said:

Personally think both RLC and VHTV in current states are waste of time. So dull and predictable. One reason I think many have found other things to do. Apart from thinking of other topics to get others involved, can't think currently of anything else that would improve the forum. 

Thanks. 

If you do think of anything just post it here in this topic.  

[dougiestyle4u]

To begin with, my belief, is that this site centers around the Chat Room as the main gathering point of getting members together and discussing anything (except politics and religion). Up to 90 to 95% of the chat talk is about RLC and Barca girls. How much regurgitation can anyone stand. No one should control the chat topics plus the use of a moderator or rules for behavior should be enforced. When a group of chatters get together to talk about RLC and Barca ONLY then everyone else is ignored if other topics are up for discussion - AS IF A FUCKING CLOSED DOOR MEETING OR OLD BOYS CLUB IN PROGRESS. Get the Chat Room back in service for others to comfortably use and feel accepted as a participating member. Most of us kept trying to add different topics (even those to stir the pot to get some reactions), pics, gifs or whatever in the forums to get members involved to no avail or limited short-term success. The way I look at it, old and new members want to join the chat conversations but feel ignored or don't want to talk only about RLC/Barca so they back away or just don't participate. 

When I joined reallifecamfan.com it was to jump in and respond to the great chatters and all their variety of topics to discuss. Back then there were a lot of comedians in the Chat Room - missed those days. Only then, did I start adding comments and creating topics for discussion in the forums. With respect to CC - the forums are used for discussion purposes similar to the chat room and appear as live action because of the high member participation while their chat room not being used. On this site, because of very low member participation the forums are slow going (in terms of back and forth replies from others) while the Chat Room is where the live action is but only for a few hours out of the 24 hour days.

I will reiterate, it is not the forum topics at fault - IT IS HOW THE CHAT ROOM HAS DETERIORATED to the point of members avoiding it. I guarantee that if the Chat Room was slowly improved to the point where all members were free to discuss other topics and really felt welcomed and not ignored then this site will increase the participation greatly. Basically, the Chat Room and the Forums go hand-in-hand together but one without the other is fruitless (as seen by the dwindling member participation numbers).

This site needs to increase the live action to get more members participating and I don't think more forum topics will do the trick.

Here is my other suggestion (probably no surprise to anyone, coming from me - lol) --->>>>> PERHAPS XCAMFAN MEMBERS SHOULD GET TOGETHER TO START THEIR OWN REAL LIFE CAM feed/videos/stream like chaturbate or facetime whether fully dressed, half naked, totally naked, real live sex (including masturbation). Well, aren't we all voyeurs after-all? I am a full-time voyeur but also a damn good pervert too (is it so fucking obvious - lol). Any volunteers to get real voyeurism back up and running again and get more members participating? Maybe we cam masturbate in front of each other with our heads not showing or wearing masks so we can have some sense of privacy. Think about it, we are just cocks and pussies but still voyeurs - haha hehe. 

[Scorpio 22]

One thing we all know that's lost cause is the Chat room. Even the ones that fucked it can't keep it going. And no it's not time for all us "haters" to step in and save it. How much use wanna bet a second one would still be going with much more fun and laughter. 😂

[StnCld316]

18 hours ago, dougiestyle4u said:

To begin with, my belief, is that this site centers around the Chat Room as the main gathering point of getting members together and discussing anything (except politics and religion). Up to 90 to 95% of the chat talk is about RLC and Barca girls. How much regurgitation can anyone stand. No one should control the chat topics plus the use of a moderator or rules for behavior should be enforced. When a group of chatters get together to talk about RLC and Barca ONLY then everyone else is ignored if other topics are up for discussion - AS IF A FUCKING CLOSED DOOR MEETING OR OLD BOYS CLUB IN PROGRESS. Get the Chat Room back in service for others to comfortably use and feel accepted as a participating member. Most of us kept trying to add different topics (even those to stir the pot to get some reactions), pics, gifs or whatever in the forums to get members involved to no avail or limited short-term success. The way I look at it, old and new members want to join the chat conversations but feel ignored or don't want to talk only about RLC/Barca so they back away or just don't participate. 

When I joined reallifecamfan.com it was to jump in and respond to the great chatters and all their variety of topics to discuss. Back then there were a lot of comedians in the Chat Room - missed those days. Only then, did I start adding comments and creating topics for discussion in the forums. With respect to CC - the forums are used for discussion purposes similar to the chat room and appear as live action because of the high member participation while their chat room not being used. On this site, because of very low member participation the forums are slow going (in terms of back and forth replies from others) while the Chat Room is where the live action is but only for a few hours out of the 24 hour days.

I will reiterate, it is not the forum topics at fault - IT IS HOW THE CHAT ROOM HAS DETERIORATED to the point of members avoiding it. I guarantee that if the Chat Room was slowly improved to the point where all members were free to discuss other topics and really felt welcomed and not ignored then this site will increase the participation greatly. Basically, the Chat Room and the Forums go hand-in-hand together but one without the other is fruitless (as seen by the dwindling member participation numbers).

This site needs to increase the live action to get more members participating and I don't think more forum topics will do the trick.

Here is my other suggestion (probably no surprise to anyone, coming from me - lol) --->>>>> PERHAPS XCAMFAN MEMBERS SHOULD GET TOGETHER TO START THEIR OWN REAL LIFE CAM feed/videos/stream like chaturbate or facetime whether fully dressed, half naked, totally naked, real live sex (including masturbation). Well, aren't we all voyeurs after-all? I am a full-time voyeur but also a damn good pervert too (is it so fucking obvious - lol). Any volunteers to get real voyeurism back up and running again and get more members participating? Maybe we cam masturbate in front of each other with our heads not showing or wearing masks so we can have some sense of privacy. Think about it, we are just cocks and pussies but still voyeurs - haha hehe. 

The Chat is open to discuss anything one wants to talk about whether it be RLC, VHTV or other interests with the exception of No Religion or any Politics. Those two topics create nothing but hatred with others as no two people will ever share the same views 

With the Chat there are some options but not many if one wishes to use them. Such as Private Room but it's only limited to 5 Members to a room so there wouldn't be much of a chance to get a large group together for one certain Topic Discussion. If everything is discussed in the Main Chat then it would be a lot of scrolling up and down the board to try and keep up with one flow of a discussion. I don't know if it's possible to have more than one Chat Box or not. The Chat Box is only a Plug-in and is controlled by CodingJungle.com

The only other option opposite to the Chat would bring the Clubs out to the front.  Then have Open Clubs. One for RLC Discussions, One for VHTV Discussions and another for any other Discussions other than RLC & VHTV.  The only thing is with RLC if any Pictures and/or Videos were to be uploaded a Third Party Upload Host would have to be used. The reason for that is the DMCA.  We have been down the road with the DMCA before and I don't think Admin would appreciate having to deal with the DMCA again.  We all know what happens when dealing with them, eventually the Server gets shutdown and then the site if offline for a day or two trying to link up with another server.  Now VHTV is just the opposite of RLC, they like having their content posted. The only part is the Voyeur-House.TV Logo would have to appear on all Pictures and Videos or the content will get removed if it does not have the Watermark Logo.

The other part  --->>>>> PERHAPS XCAMFAN MEMBERS SHOULD GET TOGETHER TO START THEIR OWN REAL LIFE CAM feed/videos/stream like chaturbate or facetime whether fully dressed, half naked, totally naked, real live sex (including masturbation).  I would imagine something could be set up to make that happen.  Only thing is one would have to be a willing participant. I myself for one would be the type to whip my shlong out for the whole world to see but to each is their own.

I am working on another project and will find out how it goes soon.  I have had some good luck at Cam Caps with it and I am hoping I get the same result here.  Will have to play it by ear and see how it goes.

[StnCld316]

6 hours ago, Scorpio 22 said:

One thing we all know that's lost cause is the Chat room. Even the ones that fucked it can't keep it going. And no it's not time for all us "haters" to step in and save it. How much use wanna bet a second one would still be going with much more fun and laughter. 😂

There are options on the Chat if one does not want to talk about RLC then that Member has the option to Ignore the ones that do. That way one would not see certain parts of a discussion on certain matters.  

[dougiestyle4u]

11 hours ago, StnCld316 said:

The Chat is open to discuss anything one wants to talk about whether it be RLC, VHTV or other interests with the exception of No Religion or any Politics.

I beg to differ but no point rehashing this. The same few chatters rule this site but also ruined this site. Go ahead, make my day - ask the chatters in the Chat Room to provide ideas as to how to get more members participating in the forums AND the Chat Room. They don't care about ANYTHING but RLC and BARCA. They don't even access the forums to read or post anything. Most, if not all, forum posters use to participate in the Chat Room until they got tired of all the shit chat. What have the chatters contributed to this site over the last two+ years other than chasing members away. You have great participating members who have continuously added topics, comments, pics, videos, gifs and "likes" in the forums while complaining about the Chat Room but all for nothing. As long as the Chat Room is left as it is then this site will remain as is. Amazing that the ones who try to help this site are ignored and pretty much pushed away. Those same few chatters provide a few hours of "words" in the Chat Room and that's it - Big Bang for Your Buck - NOT!!!!.

[StnCld316]

10 hours ago, dougiestyle4u said:

I beg to differ but no point rehashing this. The same few chatters rule this site but also ruined this site. Go ahead, make my day - ask the chatters in the Chat Room to provide ideas as to how to get more members participating in the forums AND the Chat Room. They don't care about ANYTHING but RLC and BARCA. They don't even access the forums to read or post anything. Most, if not all, forum posters use to participate in the Chat Room until they got tired of all the shit chat. What have the chatters contributed to this site over the last two+ years other than chasing members away. You have great participating members who have continuously added topics, comments, pics, videos, gifs and "likes" in the forums while complaining about the Chat Room but all for nothing. As long as the Chat Room is left as it is then this site will remain as is. Amazing that the ones who try to help this site are ignored and pretty much pushed away. Those same few chatters provide a few hours of "words" in the Chat Room and that's it - Big Bang for Your Buck - NOT!!!!.

We'll get something figured out.

[dougiestyle4u]

No surprise that not one Chatter responded to this post. Even this site Admin hasn't logged in since Feb 15 so how much does he/she care or support his/her own product (non-participant). Haven't seen hotwal logging in recently. Former mods Rob1 and texl01 have skipped town long ago. StnCld316, you are the only staff supporter of this site. Even regular participating members seem to have given up asking for improvements to this site. We have complained for over two years with no changes so the way this site has deteriorated to this point is expected and we can say "we told you so and warned you about the problems with the Chat Room". Sad to say but too many members walked away and new members don't get involved in the forums or chat room. Over 24,000 registered members but probably less than 30 members actually participating one way or another on a regular business.

This plug-in for the Chat Room by CodingJungle.com is not as good anymore and perhaps a new provider should be investigated. Like I said many times - the Chat Room is the gathering point of members and the forums add to more discussion topics. The Chat Room IS NO LONGER the accepted focal point so even forum posts have diminished and only a few of us have tried to keep things going. Seems like even less members are looking at all the forum topics or even logging in. 

Perhaps, if possible, put this site on hold for a week (Chat Room and Forums) but have a questionnaire, survey, suggestions/comments, likes/dislikes, positives/negatives or any other feedback about this site be displayed. This way, when a member signs in they will only see this and maybe respond one way or another. You need help/direction on what possible changes are needed to increase participants. StnCld316, I believe you need to get aggressive and serious on up-righting the sinking ship now.

One quick fix would be if you can convince RLC to allow posting of images which would definitely improve this site (and RLC) dramatically even with the Barca chat. Most, if not all, fan pages for RLC tenants are blank or minimal comments. But, obviously, no chance in hell for this ever happening. Really sad.

To me, if the Chat Room is left as is (constant shit talk about Barca girls) then the forum topics will have less and less postings as time goes by (why post if no one looks at them which takes time and effort to do?). The Chat Room is the centerpiece for this site and needs correcting big time. The chatters only care about Barca talk. They couldn't care less about anything else about this site. We do - dammit!!!. 

[StnCld316]

48 minutes ago, dougiestyle4u said:

No surprise that not one Chatter responded to this post. Even this site Admin hasn't logged in since Feb 15 so how much does he/she care or support his/her own product (non-participant). Haven't seen hotwal logging in recently. Former mods Rob1 and texl01 have skipped town long ago. StnCld316, you are the only staff supporter of this site. Even regular participating members seem to have given up asking for improvements to this site. We have complained for over two years with no changes so the way this site has deteriorated to this point is expected and we can say "we told you so and warned you about the problems with the Chat Room". Sad to say but too many members walked away and new members don't get involved in the forums or chat room. Over 24,000 registered members but probably less than 30 members actually participating one way or another on a regular business.

This plug-in for the Chat Room by CodingJungle.com is not as good anymore and perhaps a new provider should be investigated. Like I said many times - the Chat Room is the gathering point of members and the forums add to more discussion topics. The Chat Room IS NO LONGER the accepted focal point so even forum posts have diminished and only a few of us have tried to keep things going. Seems like even less members are looking at all the forum topics or even logging in. 

Perhaps, if possible, put this site on hold for a week (Chat Room and Forums) but have a questionnaire, survey, suggestions/comments, likes/dislikes, positives/negatives or any other feedback about this site be displayed. This way, when a member signs in they will only see this and maybe respond one way or another. You need help/direction on what possible changes are needed to increase participants. StnCld316, I believe you need to get aggressive and serious on up-righting the sinking ship now.

One quick fix would be if you can convince RLC to allow posting of images which would definitely improve this site (and RLC) dramatically even with the Barca chat. Most, if not all, fan pages for RLC tenants are blank or minimal comments. But, obviously, no chance in hell for this ever happening. Really sad.

To me, if the Chat Room is left as is (constant shit talk about Barca girls) then the forum topics will have less and less postings as time goes by (why post if no one looks at them which takes time and effort to do?). The Chat Room is the centerpiece for this site and needs correcting big time. The chatters only care about Barca talk. They couldn't care less about anything else about this site. We do - dammit!!!. 

Admin has been on.  There is a feature where one can sign in anonymously. 

I have tried numerous times to get things on the go with RLC but every time I do something to try and improve things with the Pictures & Videos the DMCA steps in and basically shutdown any thing that I try. Posters on xCamFan.com don't want to utilize posting Pictures & Videos with a Third Party Upload Site the only downfall is is anything posted is time limited from a day to 3 days and then the content is usually removed. I don't know why more don't get involved with VHTV.  At least Pictures and Videos can be placed without having to worry about losing a Membership to the site for posting such material. All VHTV requires a poster to do is to make sure the Vouteur-House.tv Logo is on all posted Pictures and Videos.  We could even start the Gallery for Posters to place their VHTV Videos. Of course a Membership would be needed to place those since certain features only work with either a current Hero Membership or a Paid Membership. The Site needs a certain amount of Memberships to keep the operating costs covered.

Maybe it's time to dump RLC since all participation for RLC is basically gone and put more focus on trying to get VHTV on the move. A poll would have to conducted to see what members want and go at it from there.  That's why I asked earlier (a couple weeks back) for suggestions so Poll's can be created to see what can be done to get this place rocking once again.  

Come on people throw out some suggestions so we can try and get this place rolling once again.

[Scorpio 22]

Let's be honest even VHTV is at an all time low. Bunch of wannabe porn stars and over exaggerated cam-lookers. Only reason CC is still going is because the die-hard few that will watch anything, and have no idea what their classified as anymore. Certainly not "Voyeurs" anyway. 😂 Just a surprise the performers are not looking into the cameras for directions. 😂😂

[dougiestyle4u]

12 hours ago, StnCld316 said:

Maybe it's time to dump RLC since all participation for RLC is basically gone

RLC does not deserve to have this site promoting it's inferior product and also prevents xcamfan from posting images by using DMCA. StnCld316, what would be the harm if you stepped into the Chat Room and kindly but with a serious tone and directive that the chatters need to ease up on controlling the Chat Room with their constant trivial weird talk? Worse case, they quit chatting. Yeah and then others can participate. It just seems that the few chatters have abused their privilege but control the survival of this site. The chatters need a serious talk and explain to them that "give RLC and Barca a rest for one (1) week or month to let other chatters comfortably use the Chat Room to see if more members participate. In the past, the Chat Room was used almost 24/7 (24 hours 7 days a week). Today, lucky if it used 6/7 (6 hours 7 days a week). Can't just rely on us forum posters to improve things. All the current chatters have to be warned about how serious this is and they need to help the cause too.

[dougiestyle4u]

12 hours ago, StnCld316 said:

That's why I asked earlier (a couple weeks back) for suggestions so Poll's can be created to see what can be done to get this place rocking once again.  

 Here are some possible questions to ask if a questionnaire is done. Members can answer any or all of them.

  Should xcamfan block any RLC comments/talk in the Chat Room for up to a month to see if other members will step in and use the Chat Room?

  Would you participate in the Chat Room if more talk about other voyeur cam sites like VHTV, Camarads or sites like Chaturbate?

  Did you sign up with this site because of the Chat Room?

   Did you sign up with this site because of all the various forum topics?

  Does chatting with members around the world appeal to you and why you signed up?

  Should any talk about RLC and tenants be relegated to fan pages just like how CC does it?

  Is there a serious need for mod(s) in the Chat Room?

  Should xcamfan implement the warning system for members having bad behavior to others or to this site?

  Do you avoid entering or reading the Chat room because of the type of chat/comments?

 Would you like to chat about other topics in the chat room besides just RLC and tenants?

  Does the lack of RLC images hurt this site and the reason why you don't participate much, if any?

  Would you like this site Admin to participate once in a while in discussions?

 Should a "guest" to this site being given a one time only one day or one week trial, if at all possible, of posting comments and seeing images to perhaps

  entice more guests to sign up?

  

[dougiestyle4u]

---->>>>> If a poll, survey or questionnaire is implemented would it be possible for it to pop up when the member logs in so that it is basically in their face at the start and more likely for some to fill it out.

---->>>>>Any chance that you can get in contact with VHTV to see if they can implement and connect something to this site that would highlight VHTV and this site can better advertise and encourage more members to follow and perhaps subscribe to their site. Good example would be them sending or streaming short replay (5 or 10 minutes) or archive videos to tempt xcamfan members. For sure this would be a great addition and much needed help to this site but also a way of promoting VHTV since RLC gets a free ride from us (RLC offers xcamfan nothing - them bastards). If more of our members do indeed follow VHTV then most of us posters would do even more because sometimes it is nice to be appreciated and know that our image/comment posts are sought after. Admin should try to make a arrangement with VHTV - they advertise on xcamfan while we increase promoting their site. Win/win for both sites. If I remember right, didn't RLC or was it VHTV that opened all rooms free for one day. Well if xcamfan had a VHTV page solely for them for their advertising then maybe one apartment shown with all rooms unlocked once a month but ONLY for xcamfan members to view. This might get guests to sign up with xcamfan. By the way, didn't this site home page have a 3 to 5 minute girlie video or music video? Perhaps an active VHTV apartment video can be relayed here to get members interested. Worth a try to investigate if VHTV is interested.

With respect to Camarads, they are as bad as RLC - no posting of images.

I believe posting of images adds greatly to discussions but the chat Room has to be open to ALL topics and everyone.