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[Vaz]

9 hours ago, Scorpio 22 said:

Let's be honest even VHTV is at an all time low. Bunch of wannabe porn stars and over exaggerated cam-lookers. Only reason CC is still going is because the die-hard few that will watch anything, and have no idea what their classified as anymore. Certainly not "Voyeurs" anyway. 😂 Just a surprise the performers are not looking into the cameras for directions. 😂😂

You mean jabbath and his merry men. Pmsl 

[StnCld316]

10 hours ago, dougiestyle4u said:

 Here are some possible questions to ask if a questionnaire is done. Members can answer any or all of them.

  Should xcamfan block any RLC comments/talk in the Chat Room for up to a month to see if other members will step in and use the Chat Room?

  Would you participate in the Chat Room if more talk about other voyeur cam sites like VHTV, Camarads or sites like Chaturbate?

  Did you sign up with this site because of the Chat Room?

   Did you sign up with this site because of all the various forum topics?

  Does chatting with members around the world appeal to you and why you signed up?

  Should any talk about RLC and tenants be relegated to fan pages just like how CC does it?

  Is there a serious need for mod(s) in the Chat Room?

  Should xcamfan implement the warning system for members having bad behavior to others or to this site?

  Do you avoid entering or reading the Chat room because of the type of chat/comments?

 Would you like to chat about other topics in the chat room besides just RLC and tenants?

  Does the lack of RLC images hurt this site and the reason why you don't participate much, if any?

  Would you like this site Admin to participate once in a while in discussions?

 Should a "guest" to this site being given a one time only one day or one week trial, if at all possible, of posting comments and seeing images to perhaps

  entice more guests to sign up?

  

I'll see what I can figure out with this. It will likely take a couple of days to drum something up from it.  

[StnCld316]

3 hours ago, Vaz said:

You mean jabbath and his merry men. Pmsl 

I don't think you have to worry about Jabbath over here.  He's dedicated to VHTV at Cam Caps.  The only time I have ever seen him here is if the Cam Caps site goes down then some of the posters come here until it's back up and running again.

[StnCld316]

12 hours ago, Scorpio 22 said:

Let's be honest even VHTV is at an all time low. Bunch of wannabe porn stars and over exaggerated cam-lookers. Only reason CC is still going is because the die-hard few that will watch anything, and have no idea what their classified as anymore. Certainly not "Voyeurs" anyway. 😂 Just a surprise the performers are not looking into the cameras for directions. 😂😂

The thing with the voyeur sites is people want to see sex because sex sells.  Most don't care as long as they see Tit's, Ass and Pussy and it has orifices to be filled. Most will have their eyes glued to the screen.  I can tell you there is more sex on VHTV in 1 day than RLC can do in 3 or 4 Months.  They currently have 35 Apartments and another 5 that are relocating to another apartment.  They used to have Gay and Trans apartments for a bit but i don't know why they are no longer there as there was a flavor there for almost everyone.  The Cam Girls that do chaturbate their easy to spot all one has to look for is a pink stick hanging out of them, it's a dead giveaway.  There are quite a few apartments that don't do the chaturbate thing.

[StnCld316]

10 hours ago, dougiestyle4u said:

---->>>>> If a poll, survey or questionnaire is implemented would it be possible for it to pop up when the member logs in so that it is basically in their face at the start and more likely for some to fill it out.

---->>>>>Any chance that you can get in contact with VHTV to see if they can implement and connect something to this site that would highlight VHTV and this site can better advertise and encourage more members to follow and perhaps subscribe to their site. Good example would be them sending or streaming short replay (5 or 10 minutes) or archive videos to tempt xcamfan members. For sure this would be a great addition and much needed help to this site but also a way of promoting VHTV since RLC gets a free ride from us (RLC offers xcamfan nothing - them bastards). If more of our members do indeed follow VHTV then most of us posters would do even more because sometimes it is nice to be appreciated and know that our image/comment posts are sought after. Admin should try to make a arrangement with VHTV - they advertise on xcamfan while we increase promoting their site. Win/win for both sites. If I remember right, didn't RLC or was it VHTV that opened all rooms free for one day. Well if xcamfan had a VHTV page solely for them for their advertising then maybe one apartment shown with all rooms unlocked once a month but ONLY for xcamfan members to view. This might get guests to sign up with xcamfan. By the way, didn't this site home page have a 3 to 5 minute girlie video or music video? Perhaps an active VHTV apartment video can be relayed here to get members interested. Worth a try to investigate if VHTV is interested.

With respect to Camarads, they are as bad as RLC - no posting of images.

I believe posting of images adds greatly to discussions but the chat Room has to be open to ALL topics and everyone.

I can rearrange the Boards around where I can place the VHTV Boards at the top just underneath the chat.  That would just place the welcome page below it.

There was a Homepage at one time.  Admin had changed it so when members or guests came on the forum they see the Forum and not a bunch of partial posts from the forum.  I don't know if something can be drawn from VHTV to a Video.  If it was possible it would likely just be from the free cam areas.  There is a thing on VHTV where if non subscribers click on a locked room they'll see a partial video of what goes on at VHTV.  It only plays for 10 seconds then it goes blurry but one can still make out through the blurriness.  The Video thing that's something Admin would have to work out with VHTV as one can't post such unless you have their permission to do so.  In the forum itself directly we have their permission to post content as long as their site watermark shows on the image posted.

As far as the Chat goes anything can be discussed or posted providing there is nothing illegal posted.   I'll see what I can figure and get done from the other things and see what happens.

[dougiestyle4u]

3 hours ago, StnCld316 said:

The Video thing that's something Admin would have to work out with VHTV as one can't post such unless you have their permission to do so.  In the forum itself directly we have their permission to post content as long as their site watermark shows on the image posted.

This is what I am talking about. Some of us post pics/images and comments about VHTV apartments which does help promote their site. Since they allow images with their logo to be posted then they obviously like xcamfan and might be approachable to something more. In terms of a short video of a replay scene or even live action, our Admin should contact VHTV to see if they would consider this (even a trial) whereby VHTV and xcamfan sign a working arrangement. 

Years ago I was involved in projects and helped design some industry flow processes pages with the computer using the IT programmers. I tried to make it operator friendly which would grab data throughout the process to capture important information on a particular screen. So, I know anything is possible. If VHTV and xcamfan can scratch each others back then both sites would benefit. VHTV could use xcamfan as their exclusive advertising site to promote their product while we have authorized short videos or even reduced subscription price for xcamfan members. The videos would be what they allow or they design only for xcamfan use. Most of us posters would push VHTV even harder and possibly more guests sign up here and subscribe to VHTV. 

Can start with the video thing and eventually one full page which would include - About VHTV, List of Apartments, Pics of Current/New Tenants, Activities/Events Happening now, Special Deals/Prices for Subscriptions and Short Video(s). Perhaps VHTV could design Random Rotating Apartment Replays showing a few seconds of sex scenes or other activities of total 1 to 5 minutes. They could change it every day or once a week. This would give xcamfan members a quick taste of who and what the tenants do. 

This site definitely needs changes and possibly outside help. I am sure VHTV would be up to an offer to help promote/advertise their site. I always look at their site and they are way better than shitty RLC. And yes, nudity and sex does sell. I still look for the tease or voyeur thing.

[dougiestyle4u]

4 hours ago, StnCld316 said:

The thing with the voyeur sites is people want to see sex because sex sells.  Most don't care as long as they see Tit's, Ass and Pussy and it has orifices to be filled. Most will have their eyes glued to the screen.  I can tell you there is more sex on VHTV in 1 day than RLC can do in 3 or 4 Months.  They currently have 35 Apartments and another 5 that are relocating to another apartment.  They used to have Gay and Trans apartments for a bit but i don't know why they are no longer there as there was a flavor there for almost everyone.  The Cam Girls that do chaturbate their easy to spot all one has to look for is a pink stick hanging out of them, it's a dead giveaway.  There are quite a few apartments that don't do the chaturbate thing.

100% correct. Seeing women half naked, totally naked and having sex is much sought after. A side boob, tit falling out, cleavage, bottom boobs, hair sticking out from sides of a girl's panties, bikinis, lingerie, naked long legs attached to high heels, pokies, daisy duke shorts, tongue play on lips or food or cock, girls kissing and more are types of teases that I look for and excite me. Anything sexual is added bonus. Even on a slow day I am open to watching gay action, tranny/shemale sex and more. Hey, I need something to give my cock a rise and that head does most of my thinking - lol. Fuck, can't argue with a nice looking big cock.

RLC has very little sex, some masturbation, the odd tease but you have to wait forever for something. VHTV usually has at least something going on in one of their apartments. The variety of girls helps. Don't mind cam girls since nudity happens. The pink stick takes away from things (a turnoff) other than my desire to lick and suck off the pussy juices - mmmm.

[dougiestyle4u]

4 hours ago, StnCld316 said:

If it was possible it would likely just be from the free cam areas.  There is a thing on VHTV where if non subscribers click on a locked room they'll see a partial video of what goes on at VHTV.  It only plays for 10 seconds then it goes blurry but one can still make out through the blurriness. 

Something of this nature but on the xcamfan site so our members will look at it. Worth a look or trial something. VHTV internet people might be able to provide or package something similar and more doable for xcamfan whereby we can highlight and promote VHTV even better. Years ago before the DMCA takedown we use to do this for RLC - sort of advertise and promote their apartments/tenants and the fan pages were very popular. It was a working arrangement between RealLifeCam and RealLifeCamFan. Why not try to assimilate this with VHTV? Our VHTV fan pages would be more widely used since VHTV will be more talked about with posted images allowed. RLC appears to be fading out unless covid goes away and RLC reinvents itself.

[Scorpio 22]

15 hours ago, StnCld316 said:

The thing with the voyeur sites is people want to see sex because sex sells.  Most don't care as long as they see Tit's, Ass and Pussy and it has orifices to be filled. Most will have their eyes glued to the screen.  I can tell you there is more sex on VHTV in 1 day than RLC can do in 3 or 4 Months.  They currently have 35 Apartments and another 5 that are relocating to another apartment.  They used to have Gay and Trans apartments for a bit but i don't know why they are no longer there as there was a flavor there for almost everyone.  The Cam Girls that do chaturbate their easy to spot all one has to look for is a pink stick hanging out of them, it's a dead giveaway.  There are quite a few apartments that don't do the chaturbate thing.

But for some there's a difference between seeing a good fuck, and seeing lame sex just to get views and top up the balance. How often can anyone really say they've witnessed a good fuck. Amount of time most of them have, you would think they would improve. What's it they say 'practice makes perfect' 😂. Less said about the masturbating, the better lol. 

[Scorpio 22]

19 hours ago, Vaz said:

You mean jabbath and his merry men. Pmsl 

Merry men lol. That's one way of describing them 😂. 

[dougiestyle4u]

6 hours ago, Scorpio 22 said:

But for some there's a difference between seeing a good fuck, and seeing lame sex just to get views and top up the balance. How often can anyone really say they've witnessed a good fuck. Amount of time most of them have, you would think they would improve

Tend to agree. Mostly the guy blows his load wherever and the girl uses a vibrator later. No cuddle afterwards, no smoking afterwards, quick grab of the cellphone afterwards, usually the girl is left cleaning up the spunk, the girl is usually treated as just a warm wet hole, no real foreplay to speak of, the girl spends time and effort licking and sucking and deep throating the guy's cock, it is rare to see a guy spend much time eating pussy or licking her asshole, usually the guy is rough or aggressive when fucking the girl and sometimes it appears like a dead fuck. 

But I enjoy looking at the girl's body from all angles, watch her expressions, listen to her vocal sounds, observe how horny or wild she can be and if and how orgasmic she gets. Watching a girl undress, moving about while naked and how sexual she is gives me my voyeur thrill. Still waiting for one of these girls to yell out my name "oh DOUGIE, yes, yes" when she has an orgasm and it would make me cum in an instant - lol. 

[StnCld316]

19 hours ago, dougiestyle4u said:

This is what I am talking about. Some of us post pics/images and comments about VHTV apartments which does help promote their site. Since they allow images with their logo to be posted then they obviously like xcamfan and might be approachable to something more. In terms of a short video of a replay scene or even live action, our Admin should contact VHTV to see if they would consider this (even a trial) whereby VHTV and xcamfan sign a working arrangement. 

Years ago I was involved in projects and helped design some industry flow processes pages with the computer using the IT programmers. I tried to make it operator friendly which would grab data throughout the process to capture important information on a particular screen. So, I know anything is possible. If VHTV and xcamfan can scratch each others back then both sites would benefit. VHTV could use xcamfan as their exclusive advertising site to promote their product while we have authorized short videos or even reduced subscription price for xcamfan members. The videos would be what they allow or they design only for xcamfan use. Most of us posters would push VHTV even harder and possibly more guests sign up here and subscribe to VHTV. 

Can start with the video thing and eventually one full page which would include - About VHTV, List of Apartments, Pics of Current/New Tenants, Activities/Events Happening now, Special Deals/Prices for Subscriptions and Short Video(s). Perhaps VHTV could design Random Rotating Apartment Replays showing a few seconds of sex scenes or other activities of total 1 to 5 minutes. They could change it every day or once a week. This would give xcamfan members a quick taste of who and what the tenants do. 

This site definitely needs changes and possibly outside help. I am sure VHTV would be up to an offer to help promote/advertise their site. I always look at their site and they are way better than shitty RLC. And yes, nudity and sex does sell. I still look for the tease or voyeur thing.

I'll have to run this past Admin as he would have to be the one to work out something VHTV.

[Plank]

Interesting suggestion @dougiestyle4u . However I can't see VHtv going for it. They are in bed with CC and they do all their publicity for them. VHtv only bother with us lot when CC goes down.
The pics alone might get people to subscribe out of curiosity. But I doubt VHtv will allow video clips to be posted as it rains on their parade as far as the Video Archive is concerned.
Also why subscribe if people can get it for free?
That's how I've been feeling when it comes to this place. Why should I use my subscription, to entertain the free-loaders. (Also have my pics stolen for use on CC,don't get me started)
I don't mind posting stuff for the benefit of our membership,doing my bit and all that shit.
However,I get disheartened when I know how many folk have viewed my post,yet there are two likes and no comments,debate,discussion etc. So maybe the fault also lays with our membership, who don't want to get involved?
Like most social media platforms,scan through,look at what grabs your attention then fuck off on to something else?
I don't think the problem is with VHtv, I think the problem is with the other sites who prohibit anything of theirs being posted, or else.
My view on that is,if they don't play ball with us,why should we advertise them?
As @dougiestyle4u mentioned above,we all witnessed the shit hitting the fan when rlc started throwing around DMCA notices, and just look how their site has suffered since then!
I've already had chats with @StnCld316 about leaving our forum open so that non-members can view our stuff, I'm against it.
If it is left open where is the incentive to join? Maybe there is scope for a trial period, a week or whatever. But the problem with that is everyone goes over to CC anyway & I don't blame them.
There are far more members posting stuff,so it's more immediate,up to date etc. There are only a few of us posting anything on the VHtv side, we can't get to it all,or spare the time.
After all this time of promoting their site,I haven't seen them offering any sort of discount or goodwill gesture for services rendered. Have you had anything @cyberleader....thought not.
And to sum up,I don't know what the answer is to this forums general torpor?  🤔

[dougiestyle4u]

Hey @Plank at least I am trying to help xcamfan move forward with suggestions. I don't look at CC to see what their shit is about. If there is no point asking VHTV for some miniscule help or they refuse to then we all should quit posting any VHTV stuff.  RLC slowly killed us and the Chat Room is giving us the final death blow - then what? No one else is stepping up with suggestions. What it comes down to it - very few members log in to this site now and even less of those actually participate in the forums or Chat Room. Camarads is a lost cause as is VoyeurHouse.com. Basically we rely on the World Outside topics.

My belief, and I keep stressing this - the Chat Room needs an overhaul ASAP. Perhaps it is too late to do anything now. StnCld316 needs responses to any possible poll, survey, questionnaire or comments regarding the decrease of participants. And a heads up to StnCld316, if you do indeed follow through with providing a poll, survey or whatever AND few or no chatters respond or give reasonable replies then ban them from xcamfan altogether (we don't need them since they hurt this site and obviously don't care about the site issues).

Since I mostly bad mouth RLC and refuse to post anything about Camarads (even though some tenants offer some nudity and sex) and if VHTV ignores xcamfan then I will quit posting pics and bad mouth them. 

 

[dougiestyle4u]

Perhaps when new members register they should provide a reason why they sign up (have it mandatory before they are accepted). This might give Admin an idea what new members like.