Policy Change - 7/19/17 - Please Read

[jabbath1987]

Just now, tharkibwj said:

If CC doesn't come up in a day or 2, I'll start posting VH stuff here.

Well already the site is loading again. They are doing maintenance now... Check out the new guys Zio and Tim...

[Spoon]

On 22/07/2017 at 5:34 PM, StnCld316 said:

RLC Videos are all over many tube sites. RLC has an impossible task at getting each and every one of them. Tube Sites also get DMCA Takedown Notices but most of them just remove the link change the name of the Title and place it back on the Server again. It's just a continuous circle.  I don't exactly know how much RLC pays the DMCA to Issue Removal Notices but the process is not cheap.  I always classify it as Free Advertising but RLC (Tech Fashions Inc.) just doesn't see it the same way.

Regarding the cost of a DMCA notice.... it doesn't cost anything, really. The name is an abbreviation of Digital Millenium Copyright Act and all you need to do is have a lawyer send a notice following the requirements listed in the DMCA. The lawyer may cost money though, unless you already have one on retainer. There is a company and site named DMCA which is providing a service for sending these notices but they are simply capitalising on the name DMCA. It's quite possible a lot of copyright owners use them but they are not required for sending such a notice.

The lack of a cost to send these notices and the extremely low risk of getting caught when you send an incorrect notice is what makes the whole DMCA a mess. There are some good things in the Act for protecting sites like RLFC and CC but you will typically need to pay your own lawyers to fight back which is costly, so most small sites simply submit and remove content or shut down entirely when served  DMCA notice.

I should mention that I am not a lawyer but I find the topic interesting.

[jabbath1987]

2 minutes ago, Spoon said:

Regarding the cost of a DMCA notice.... it doesn't cost anything, really. The name is an abbreviation of Digital Millenium Copyright Act and all you need to do is have a lawyer send a notice following the requirements listed in the DMCA. The lawyer may cost money though, unless you already have one on retainer. There is a company and site named DMCA which is providing a service for sending these notices but they are simply capitalising on the name DMCA. It's quite possible a lot of copyright owners use them but they are not required for sending such a notice.

The lack of a cost to send these notices and the extremely low risk of getting caught when you send an incorrect notice is what makes the whole DMCA a mess. There are some good things in the Act for protecting sites like RLFC and CC but you will typically need to pay your own lawyers to fight back which is costly, so most small sites simply submit and remove content or shut down entirely when served  DMCA notice.

I should mention that I am not a lawyer but I find the topic interesting.

Thanks for info. Did not know this. I ask myself why RLC is so eager to bring that stuff down. When you look at the other sites (VV, VH, camarads) it obviously does not harm them at all. VH even gets members from guys who first look in into the VH section of CC.

[Spoon]

14 minutes ago, jabbath1987 said:

Thanks for info. Did not know this. I ask myself why RLC is so eager to bring that stuff down. When you look at the other sites (VV, VH, camarads) it obviously does not harm them at all. VH even gets members from guys who first look in into the VH section of CC.

My theory is that it's something they promise the tenants. I don't watch much VH but from what I can tell the people there are quite different from the ones in RLC. Similar sites of course but in RLC there is at least a semblance of normal life (though far from real) where as in VH it's pretty much expected to be porn. I imagine that in order for relatively normal people to sign up they need to have a section in the contract that says they will do their utmost to prevent videos or images to be shown online. I just wish they would stop chasing us, or at least allow non-nude pictures. Sometimes you just want to show a funny thing that happened.

[jabbath1987]

4 minutes ago, Spoon said:

My theory is that it's something they promise the tenants. I don't watch much VH but from what I can tell the people there are quite different from the ones in RLC. Similar sites of course but in RLC there is at least a semblance of normal life (though far from real) where as in VH it's pretty much expected to be porn. I imagine that in order for relatively normal people to sign up they need to have a section in the contract that says they will do their utmost to prevent videos or images to be shown online. I just wish they would stop chasing us, or at least allow non-nude pictures. Sometimes you just want to show a funny thing that happened.

What you say makes a lot of sense to me. But when RLC does not claim to be "porn like" why are there so much RLC popup windows on pornsites ?

[StnCld316]

43 minutes ago, tharkibwj said:

If CC doesn't come up in a day or 2, I'll start posting VH stuff here.

Progress is being made. The Cam Caps page now appears when accessing the Site and it's now Under Maintenance so it should be back on tonight some time.

[dougiestyle4u]

8 hours ago, Voyeur House TV said:

Hey Guys,

Thank you for your hard work. The team of Voyeur-House.TV is with you on this and would like to participate in supporting your projects. Please reach out to us if we may be any help to you. Dear, @Admin, dear @StnCld316, you are the best and we miss contacting you very much. 

Hopefully we will get CamCaps back very soon for everyone to continue posting awesome content and sharing our opinions on websites we follow.

Sincerely,
Team of VHTV

Refreshing to see the mutual support, unlike RLC who appear to be combative. Free advertising from both these fan sites (similar to word-of-mouth advertising) can generate big money at no cost. Big winners all-around for Voyeur-House TV, Voyeur-Villa, Camarads, RLCF and CC while big loser for RLC. To me, Voyeur-House TV is #1 followed by Camarads since they offer the best voyeur thrills for my liking. Voyeur-villa is trying to improve it's site.

[Amy3]

Hi everyone, this is Amy3. 

I would just like to say that anyone who posts any comments in the RLC forums once CC returns is a trader. For what they did to the whole CC site they should be shunned. Each comment you post there makes RLC money. You should join VHTV for having the balls to come out against what RLC did. Just for that I will very likely resubscribe in a couple of weeks.  I would hope that VV, Camarads, and any others will come here and denounce such tactics. There are more civil ways of dealing with these sorts of problems. Anyone with a brain in their head knows that there is a symbiotic relationship between the sites and us commenters.  If there is an imbalance then it should be discussed with the admins until a solution can be found that restores the balance. Launching a full on attack against this site and CC is a wrongheaded approach. I just hope all of you RLC posters realize that the attack wasn't just against the sites, it was against you too. Join VHTV and post comments there instead.

[Guest]

Welcome aboard Amy3.    

[Plank]

9 hours ago, Voyeur House TV said:

Hey Guys,

Thank you for your hard work. The team of Voyeur-House.TV is with you on this and would like to participate in supporting your projects. Please reach out to us if we may be any help to you. Dear, @Admin, dear @StnCld316, you are the best and we miss contacting you very much. 

Hopefully we will get CamCaps back very soon for everyone to continue posting awesome content and sharing our opinions on websites we follow.

Sincerely,
Team of VHTV

Right here,a site that doesn't treat it's customers/supporters with contempt. Thanks for your support VHTV, one question,do you accept VISA ?

[Ebin]

10 hours ago, Voyeur House TV said:

Hey Guys,

Thank you for your hard work. The team of Voyeur-House.TV is with you on this and would like to participate in supporting your projects. Please reach out to us if we may be any help to you. Dear, @Admin, dear @StnCld316, you are the best and we miss contacting you very much. 

Hopefully we will get CamCaps back very soon for everyone to continue posting awesome content and sharing our opinions on websites we follow.

Sincerely,
Team of VHTV

Based solely on this post, I purchased a membership with VHTV. I was never privy to any VHTV content before, but I am truly impressed now that I have seen it. Thank you guys for understanding how a community such as this works, and, for what it's worth, you've got my recurring membership for the foreseeable future. Also, in case I didn't mention it, EXCELLENT content.

[Amy3]

13 minutes ago, Plank said:

Right here,a site that doesn't treat it's customers/supporters with contempt. Thanks for your support VHTV, one question,do you accept VISA ?

Yes, they accept VISA. That's what I used.

[Plank]

Thanks for the info Amy3.

*Plank holds onto rope and commences ship-jumping.....Huzzzzahhhh!!!

[cyberleader]

a warm welcome to army sniper and amy3,well respected members.due to vhtv support in this trying matter it has convinced me to become a paid member,so i will be taking membership when coin allows,

[Amy3]

6 minutes ago, cyberleader said:

a warm welcome to army sniper and amy3,well respected members.due to vhtv support in this trying matter it has convinced me to become a paid member,so i will be taking membership when coin allows,

Very good idea. I wish every RLC member would do the same when it comes time to resubscibe. For taking down the whole site including forums that don't pertain to them, they deserve much distain.