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Nothing changes and the same handful of people making assumptions and complaining the girls are not doing what is expected of them. Always one gets singled out for being fake or the reason things don't go to plan. And as usual it's everyone else's fault the chat is dead and doesn't get used by more. 

@Pleasant  No apology needed,we go back a long way and you,(and those that have read my shit over the years), know that the majority of the time I am being, or trying to be,tongue in cheek,sardonic,pithy, humourous etc.My comments not meant as a serious swipe at you, just me being sarcastic and missing the spot. Sorry if I caused you or anyone else any angst.
But let me explain the reason for my comment. I have said previously somewhere that I had become jaded with RLCF because with a few exceptions, I seemed to be the only one posting anything on the VHtv section.
Taking my time to cap,compose & edit stuff etc, despite being busy in my real life. I thought I was doing our forum members a favour , trying to keep RLCF ticking over, because from my point of view it seemed to be dying on it's arse with numerous great members of this forum abandoning us & jumping ship to CC.
But by the time I get online & review the days events,anything & everything is already up on CC and is now old news.Yet I will still post something if I find it interesting,intriguing or I have a viewpoint on it.
I know how many views my post may have had yet,with a few exceptions, there will be no comments or discussion or debate,just a few 'likes'. I am not looking for praise,compliments,plaudits or medals,I would just like folks to get involved.
But it's clear to me that folk just want to look at the pictures & that's fine I suppose. 
 @dougiestyle4u  There is 'no beef ting dem' as they say on streets,innit! Or in English, there is no disagreement or argument.as far as I'm concerned,I wasn't pissed off,but I have always said that if anyone has an issue with anybody ,take it to PM.
@Max 2017 Yes mate,it has been creeping up slowly but surely.
Sofi & Carmen, don't get me started with all the screaming & moving from room to room.
Pamela & Joseph, the worst of the bunch. Shame really, the girls are nice.
Dorian, Wagner, Darren and Robert&Sallie, fly-vision, why?
Nikki & Archi The Guest girl all the time,Nikki sometimes.
Julia & Raul, Denisa & Alexey, surprised that they returned,stale bullshit shows although Denisa is easy on the eyes.
Leeloo & Corben,  Leeloo sometimes.
Cristian & Andrea, when there's not a cam show going on there is a photo-shoot or porn shoot going on. Shite stuttering stream & cams, waste of space.
Nadia & Obi, a shame really I thought Nadia was above all that, I was wrong.
Lisa & Grant. Lisa has done more recently & probably gets off better than she does with Grant.
I know it must be difficult for the participants to think up different stuff to drag in viewers,but this cam show stuff is not the answer.I suppose it also raises the question. Do the participants need to supplement their income by doing cam shows?                       In which case VHtv need to look at their payment scale.

To each his own. I'm pretty sure we all want similar things, but none of us want the exact same thing. I personally like the "pornyness" of VHTV and feel justified in paying the monthly fee for it. If you don't that's fine too. I can see how it would be irritating to have an itch that can't be scratched, as it were. The VHTV forum is probably not the best place to complain about it though. Maybe the frustrations board would be a better place.

https://chaturbate.com/hotbitchdevil/
Tiny little redhead, really cute. Would be nice to see them back on VHTV. They do the boss scenario and also he dresses like a repairman and she teases him, it's of course all fake role playing. I would actually rather just see her laying spread eagle on a bed. 😛 

I think, basically, we are ALL in agreement that all of us "real voyeurs" are getting frustrated in not being able to see and enjoy the "real voyeur type activities" that we got hooked on when RLC first provided this concept for paid subscribers and free cam viewers. Whether it is RLC or VHTV or any other cam voyeur site (past and present) the lack of any subtle voyeur tease plus the aggressive use of fake participants or pornstars or cammers or sex workers has pretty much killed the terms "real life" and "voyeur".
Since RLC and VHTV and Camarads don't appear to change I have spent more time searching and watching "voyeur type activities" that give me a rise at all the porn sites available on the internet. Sure I tour VHTV and quickly look at Camarads thumbnails for something but mostly nothing for me. If I catch something on VHTV worthy of posting on RLCF I will continue to do so. 
I understand fully where Pleasant and Plank are coming from but my beef is with voyeur sites that lie about their product. Suggestion to the dumb fuck owners - offer up half the apartments doing the porn type activities and the other half of the apartments doing real voyeur type teases only. This way there IS something for everyone - duhhhhh!!!!! 
I will never stop being a voyeur. Fixated on women when I first got a look at these sexy teases when I was in grade 2 (7 years old - my early recollection or was it an erection - lol). The sight of a girl's bare legs (my young female teacher), a women's cleavage and upper boobs exposed (my big titted aunt and her big titted daughter) or following a girl's ass as she walked to school (my sister or other female classmates).  At a very early age I learned to appreciate art - the female body. At my age, even mature women or grandmas pass the test of acceptability.
        
 
So if there is any infighting let's take it outside. By this I mean take it up with the voyeur site owners and not between RLCF members. If anything, badmouth the owners or constantly make denands or suggestions for an improved product. Perhaps we are in need of another site that will satisfy the "true real life voyeurs". The voyeur tease is dearly missing (occasional sex is okay) which gets my imagination going and the desire to hopefully CATCH more skin or MAYBE some tit, naked ass, pussy flash or the "coup de gras" - nudity.
      

No,no.no!
There is nothing 'wannabe' about them, they are porn stars & camgirls,why the fuck do you think they do this shit? You could even say sex-workers,that covers a whole range of sins & sinners.
At least the subscribers of VHtv are paying for their porn & thereby supporting those workers. Unlike everyone else who expects to get their porn for free. Discuss 40%
Thanks so much for your feedback & support, it is very valuable to us at the VHtv section of RLCF, (and other such management-speak type corporate bullshit.) I hope you have enjoyed my contribution to the VHtv section of the RLCF forum.                                  I am just doing my bit for our site. I am sure my fellow contributors will also be grateful for your comment.
It's your choice,if you don't like it walk away. Which is exactly what I did to RLC when they decided to treat their fans forums with utter contempt.
Unlike RLC, VHtv like their fans to post pics as it advertises their site,thereby generates more subscribers & their site is a success & makes shit loads of money.I doubt RLC retain as many of their viewers month on month as VHtv does.
Unfortunately their has been an outbreak of fake scenario acting recently. I have no doubt that VHtv are well aware of what the viewers think about this, as they encourage feedback & do respond to their subscribers concerns,again unlike RLC.
 

Lately it seems that you hear a lot more about the RLC tenants than what is actually happening within the apartments. Basically, I guess you are better off reading the chat to get an update on all the actions instead of watching the paint dry in each apartment. It's like describing a piece of new shit in the toilet - which girl's ass it probably came out of, what she probably ate the hours or day before, if she only had a light meal followed by lots of booze, if she eats all her main food groups for proper nutrition, if diarrhea then maybe the girl has stress or sick, if some blood in her poop then she might have hemorrhoids or should see a doctor, did she leave skid marks as the shit was flushed, would she be good for anal sex. Such over ANALyzing, second by second play-by-play and hypothesizing on what the girls will do next, why the girls don't get along, who likes who more or what ever. There is a common denominator between the girl's shit and the chat room. Any guesses what that is - lol.

Intimidated! 

Who in their right mind would ever feel intimidated. Just a bunch of sad old men obsessed with girls they have no chance in the world ever getting with. 

According to VHTV they are done and won't be back.

Who is the ex-VHtv-er? 🤔
 

I'm not defending them here, but I just want to mention that they are broadcasting on Chaturbate when they do this. I don't think they are trying to actually fool anyone and I don't think it's for VHTV viewers benefit but people tipping them on Chaturbate. I can't tell what their saying so have no idea what  roleplaying their doing. It's not something I'm really interested in, I just like a peek at the 2 girls and then I'm off elsewhere as soon as something better is going on. It is part of their daily routine, so in a way it is reality, your just watching them doing a job, nothing more. 
link to their chaturbate account:  https://chaturbate.com/rrr1995/
 

I blame it on all the porn with themed scenarios. You know like "I fucked my step sister" or  "My step dad gave it to me good" lol, You know what I talking about? There is a ton of it out there. There is another retired VHTV cam girl on CB that is always doing: "Shhh I'm at work and my boss is right behind me" kind of thing. You can't really blame them (Even if it is a little retarded) there is a shit load of people on CB and it seems like it would be tough to stand out in the crowd.

Agree totally every time I watch them fuck, his fat ass makes me turn the channel. lol

It's not so much a 'fly-on-the-wall' viewpoint is it? More fly-on-the-ceiling.

Always liked Lisa,but Grant is a bore. Their presence at N & O's has killed the mood.

Donald Trump meets with the Queen. He asks her "Your Majesty, how do you run such an efficient government? Are there any tips you can give to me?"
"Well" says the Queen "the most important thing is to surround yourself with intelligent people".
Trump frowns. "But how do I know the people around me are really intelligent?"
The Queen takes a sip of tea. "Oh, that's easy. You just ask them to answer an intelligence riddle".
The Queen pushes a button on her intercom. "Please send Theresa May in here, would you?"
Theresa May walks into the room. "Yes, my Queen?"
The Queen smiles. "Answer me this, please, Theresa. Your mother and father have a child. It is not your brother and it is not your sister. Who is it?"
Without pausing for a moment, Theresa answers "That would be me".
"Yes! Very good" says the Queen.
Back at the White House, Trump asks to speak with Vice President Mike Pence.
"Mike, answer this for me. Your mother and father have a child. It's not your brother and it's not your sister. Who is it?"
"I'm not sure" says the Vice President. "Let me get back to you on that one".
Mike Pence goes to his advisers and asks everyone, but none can give him an answer. Finally, he ends up in the men's room and recognises General McMasters' shoes in the next stall.
Mike shouts "General! Can you answer this for me? Your mother and your father have a child and it's not your brother or your sister. Who is it?
General McMaster yells back "That's easy. It's me!"
Mike Pence smiles. "Thanks!" and goes back to the Oval Office to speak with Trump.
"Say, I did some research and I have the answer to that riddle. It's General McMaster".
Trump gets up, stomps over to Mike Pence, and angrily yells into his face "No, you idiot! It's Theresa May!"

One of the most lame and pathetic performances I have ever seen. Unbelievable what some people watch and even tip for. Makes the Barcelona girls and MSD look real lol 

She totally was, took the nozzle off and pressure washed it. lol

She totally was, took the nozzle off and pressure washed it. lol